It is very difficult to get rid of Egotism

Jai Gurudev,

When we see something significant in our selves, it is a major flaw.
If we see smartness in our self (such as - I know the Gita by heart,
I have an in-depth understanding of the meaning and ex-pressions of
the Gita etc), or if we see spiritual goodness in us, (e.g. I
worship God, I meditate, I chant devotional songs, I repeat His holy
name etc), or anything great that we see in our self, it is all
egotism. By whatever means we find something special in our self,
that is egotism.

This egoism can come due to one's caste, color, creed, stage in
life, knowledge, intelligence and many other forms of arrogance and
conceit. It is different forms of pride that can lead to one's
downfall. Thinking that we have - good qualities, desirable
abilities, knowledge, smartness, articulation etc. is egotism. Such
egotism coming from goodness is dangerous and difficult to get rid
off.

With respect to "Egotism" it has been said in Ramayana -
"Sansrut mool soolprad naanan, sakal sauk daayak abhimaana." (Manasa
7:74:3)
All devilish tendencies, bad qualities, evil actions, operate under
the umbrella of "Egotism." (arrogance, conceit).

The more effort we put into getting rid of this egotism, the more it
becomes firmly established. The more ways that we find to wipe out
the pride and arrogance, the solutions themselves will increase our
egotism. It is truly very difficult to get rid of Egotism.

A spiritual aspirant must keep in mind that whatever good qualities
he has, are not his own, rather they have come from God. Being a
part of God, the Self (Atma) is flawless and without qualities.
Therefore those great qualities should be understood as being God's,
not ours. By believing and understanding with a firm resolve that
these good qualities are all God's, there will be no egotism. This
pride and arrogance cannot be rooted out by our self, it needs the
grace of God. On this subject a spiritual aspirant must remain very
vigilant.

Gurusevak,

Manoj Gilda.

Dearest Prabhu,

This was such a helpful post for me. Sometimes sadhana
seems to be entertainment of the ego rather than diminishing
the ego. My husband tells me that while sadhana will destroy
anarthas,vrittis and samsaras, it may also cause them to rise to
the surface. I sometimes feel too much "I "in my work and prayer.
I would like to know how others avoid this dangerous pitfall of
sadhana.

Another interesting point is that I can see it in others, but not in
myself. Please suggest any other remedies to SUBTLE EGO.

This is the first time, I am writing to this forum and there are
many sadhanas of which I have never heard. So you are
educating me, too. I greatly appreciate all the entries, especially
those that relate to general dharmic prinicipals which can apply
to any path. I found the group while searching for mrityunjaya
sadhana and believe the temple is located in Delhi.

Jyoti

--- In issplist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "judymalekzadeh2003"
wrote:
Jai Gurudev!

I have always felt that most questions that we raise, the answers of
those are already given by Gurudev in advance in MTY just one or two
months ago.

For example your question about, how to ego and how to curb it.


Gurudev says "always remember the first day when you came to me for
diksha"

This will never let your ego rise.

Vande Nikhilam!



> Dearest Prabhu,
>
> This was such a helpful post for me. Sometimes sadhana
> seems to be entertainment of the ego rather than diminishing
> the ego. My husband tells me that while sadhana will destroy
> anarthas,vrittis and samsaras, it may also cause them to rise to
> the surface. I sometimes feel too much "I "in my work and prayer.
> I would like to know how others avoid this dangerous pitfall of
> sadhana.
>
> Another interesting point is that I can see it in others, but not
in
> myself. Please suggest any other remedies to SUBTLE EGO.
>
> This is the first time, I am writing to this forum and there are
> many sadhanas of which I have never heard. So you are
> educating me, too. I greatly appreciate all the entries, especially
> those that relate to general dharmic prinicipals which can apply
> to any path. I found the group while searching for mrityunjaya
> sadhana and believe the temple is located in Delhi.
>
> Jyoti
>

Somby, ur right... but different people understand the same thing
differently... so to put the right thought in their minds same things
needs to be said in different manner.

I see, most of Indian sciences r meant for the "Physical Suggestible"
(one's who have tendency to take in knowledge literally, directly,
these r emotional ppl, they can just follow) but todays world is a
world of "Emotional Suggestibles" (one's who have tendency to take in
knowledge inferentially, intellectually, these r one who can handle
emotions, even if they like to follow,doubts come in their mind).

Sometimes even I have problem here bcoz... to be honest i am an
intellectual myself and ppl make there own presumtions. People will
tell u to become more "trusting" but that will mean changing ur core
belief system all of a sudden, removing all the mental conditioning
till today, thats not possible, for intellectuals it takes time to
build faith. Since from ur words u sound like an emotional
suggestible, i would like to say one thing, plz dont fight urself,
dont try to deplete Ego in one go. "Evolution is better than
revolution", thats the truth, its a slow process. If u can end ur ego
then ur already enlightened, but it doesnt happen in one day. So plz,
just relax and concentrate on the work (sadhna/meditation) at hand,
loss of egotism happens by itslef. Sadhna is the technique (Tantra).

Techniques r for mind oriented people while total "Bhakti" is for
heart oriented ones. Still, some amount of faith is required by
intellectuals also or else u wont follow the technique given by
Master and without following technique u will just end being where u
were in the start. Persistence overcome every known obstacle to
mankind... but its possible only if u believe ur persisting with
right action, right? Atleast this much faith is required, thats the
science of believing.

--- In issplist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "somybist" wrote:
>
> --- In issplist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "judymalekzadeh2003"
> wrote:
> Jai Gurudev!
>
> I have always felt that most questions that we raise, the answers
of
> those are already given by Gurudev in advance in MTY just one or
two
> months ago.
>
> For example your question about, how to ego and how to curb it.
>
>
> Gurudev says "always remember the first day when you came to me
for
> diksha"
>
> This will never let your ego rise.
>
> Vande Nikhilam!
>
>
>
> > Dearest Prabhu,
> >
> > This was such a helpful post for me. Sometimes sadhana
> > seems to be entertainment of the ego rather than diminishing
> > the ego. My husband tells me that while sadhana will destroy
> > anarthas,vrittis and samsaras, it may also cause them to rise to
> > the surface. I sometimes feel too much "I "in my work and prayer.
> > I would like to know how others avoid this dangerous pitfall of
> > sadhana.
> >
> > Another interesting point is that I can see it in others, but not
> in
> > myself. Please suggest any other remedies to SUBTLE EGO.
> >
> > This is the first time, I am writing to this forum and there are
> > many sadhanas of which I have never heard. So you are
> > educating me, too. I greatly appreciate all the entries,
especially
> > those that relate to general dharmic prinicipals which can apply
> > to any path. I found the group while searching for mrityunjaya
> > sadhana and believe the temple is located in Delhi.
> >
> > Jyoti
> >
>