about names,online content etc.

04-03-2001, 07:02 AM

Jai Gurudev

I think that www.siddhashram.org is a better platform for putting
details of all old magazines/books/audio/video etc.. I am sure that
work in this direction is already being done in Jodhpur Gurudham.
Slowly and steadily, they are uploading most of the things on the
official website.
I am not very confortable with the putting of books into pdf format.
Because, most of Gurudev's books were published by publishers like
Dehati Pushtak Bhandar, Pushtak Mahal etc., and there will be
copyright issues involved.
So, I will rather advice against putting the entire book online.
However, having said, putting in some excerpt of the book/magazine
like 1-2 chapters etc. will be a better thing. This will give an idea
to a new person about the content of the book, and will prompt and
encourage him to buy a new book.
A good Guru Sewa might be to actually type in or scan some chapters
of each book and mail that to mtyv@...

Let us not forget that a major part of money from book/cassettes
selling goes towards charitable activities. Let us not suffocate the
charity bit in this process.
A person who pays money to buy book or for Diksha etc. actually does
a "Dhan Daan" , and wipes out part of his karma.
I don't like giving away things free. A person getting a free handout
never, never appreciates the importance of it. Charge him a token
amount to "make " it worthful.

Secondly, we have to be very, very careful to ensure that both sites
do not compete with each other. The synergy of both should complement
, and be mutually rewarding to each. That means, that the new site
sud not go into official issues like publication of magazine old
issues, books etc. That is remit of www.siddhashram.org , and it is
already doing it. It is in process of putting in audio,video etc.
Let us not duplicate what already is being done. However, the new
site can have some comments on books etc. by various Sadhaks. We can
also have some English translation of Gurudev's old books. How many
people know that Gurudev actually wrote more than 600 books. There
are hundreds of books on astrology, ayurveda etc. Most of those books
(¬80%) are actually out of print, and very few people have got
copies. Let us get details of those books and put that on the net.
Let people contribute about their experiences in shivir etc. Any new
person joining in is interested in knowing what a shivir (sadhana
camp) is like, how is it conducted? someone can write details on this
based on his own expereinces. Yes, I know that stuff like this might
be more difficult than just typing/scanning of existing mags&books,
but then as Gurudev said - "Sewa Dharam Ati Kathora" (Service to Guru
is very, very difficult)

Let us take tough tasks. Problems might come. Let us challenge these
problems and overcome them.
Let us not go into anything official. We do not have a mandate or
permission for that. It is basically, a "forum" for Sadhaks to help
the Sadhaks by virtue of their own experiences and knowledge. Let us
keep it this way and not dilute the effect (or effort).

About new name etc.
Why not use www.siddhashram.net I think that it is a good idea as
this forum is basically a network of Sadhaks of Siddhashram.
This domain is in name of Gurudham . We can ask Gurudev for
permission to use this domain name. This will also create less
confusion, as www.siddhashram.net will be a logical extension of
www.siddhashram.org

As this site is basically an addition of the main site, so I don't
see any need for having multiple names. This , again might confuse
the new comers. If at all, you are keen to take a new name, then
probably, the best way forward is to propose a list of names to Pujya
Trimurti Gurudevji and get a name chosen/allocated by Them. This
will also mean getting a Divine Aashirwaad and blessings for the task.
Moroever, I will also strongly recommend making Delhi or Jodhpur
Gurudham as the main domain owner instead of any single individual.
You can take it in name of any of the three Gurudevs. I am willing to
spend the money for taking the domain name in Gurudev's name , as it
is Guru Sewa.

Jai Gurudev

--- In issplist@y..., zm1603@h... wrote:
> -JAIGURUDEV
> Birendra singh ji has some excellent suggestions. As for the name
both
> sadhak and shakti are good, but why not combine them:
> Sadhna ki shakti (that will make it more self explanatory to a new
> surfer) with the same essence
> Good wishes, and Jai Gurudev

04-03-2001, 07:28 AM

JAI GURUDEV

Dear Arvind,

We are not going for any paid service right now, so we can't have
names like www.siddhashram.net. The naming patter of Brinkster (which
we would be using if we have no better alternative) is like
www14.brinkster.com/WHATEVER_WE_LIKE_IF_AVAILABLE.

We are building a forum, an extension for siddhashram.org. Let's not
make things more complicated. Let's get started using a free service
and make it grow. If anything is worthy to be included in
siddhashram.org, Guruji will have it included. We are implementing
just a filter, not a fulfledged website.

As you have suggested, we must make sure that these two sites do not
compete and anything like siddhashram.net would be a sure competition.

Now, I need your help.

1. Suggest a short, easy to remember, worthy, relevant name which
fits in the above mentioned name.

2. There are many suggetions regarding the sections in the new site.
I am confused. Please, consult everyone and give me the final verdict.

Without these two informations, I can't proceed. Please, concentrate
on these two.

Thanks.

Ashish Marathe
JAI GURUDEV

--- In issplist@y..., arvind_sharma@b... wrote:
> Jai Gurudev
>
> I think that www.siddhashram.org is a better platform for putting
> details of all old magazines/books/audio/video etc.. I am sure that
> work in this direction is already being done in Jodhpur Gurudham.
> Slowly and steadily, they are uploading most of the things on the
> official website.
> I am not very confortable with the putting of books into pdf
format.
> Because, most of Gurudev's books were published by publishers like
> Dehati Pushtak Bhandar, Pushtak Mahal etc., and there will be
> copyright issues involved.
> So, I will rather advice against putting the entire book online.
> However, having said, putting in some excerpt of the book/magazine
> like 1-2 chapters etc. will be a better thing. This will give an
idea
> to a new person about the content of the book, and will prompt and
> encourage him to buy a new book.
> A good Guru Sewa might be to actually type in or scan some chapters
> of each book and mail that to mtyv@s...
>
> Let us not forget that a major part of money from book/cassettes
> selling goes towards charitable activities. Let us not suffocate
the
> charity bit in this process.
> A person who pays money to buy book or for Diksha etc. actually
does
> a "Dhan Daan" , and wipes out part of his karma.
> I don't like giving away things free. A person getting a free
handout
> never, never appreciates the importance of it. Charge him a token
> amount to "make " it worthful.
>
> Secondly, we have to be very, very careful to ensure that both
sites
> do not compete with each other. The synergy of both should
complement
> , and be mutually rewarding to each. That means, that the new site
> sud not go into official issues like publication of magazine old
> issues, books etc. That is remit of www.siddhashram.org , and it is
> already doing it. It is in process of putting in audio,video etc.
> Let us not duplicate what already is being done. However, the new
> site can have some comments on books etc. by various Sadhaks. We
can
> also have some English translation of Gurudev's old books. How many
> people know that Gurudev actually wrote more than 600 books. There
> are hundreds of books on astrology, ayurveda etc. Most of those
books
> (¬80%) are actually out of print, and very few people have got
> copies. Let us get details of those books and put that on the net.
> Let people contribute about their experiences in shivir etc. Any
new
> person joining in is interested in knowing what a shivir (sadhana
> camp) is like, how is it conducted? someone can write details on
this
> based on his own expereinces. Yes, I know that stuff like this
might
> be more difficult than just typing/scanning of existing
mags&books,
> but then as Gurudev said - "Sewa Dharam Ati Kathora" (Service to
Guru
> is very, very difficult)
>
> Let us take tough tasks. Problems might come. Let us challenge
these
> problems and overcome them.
> Let us not go into anything official. We do not have a mandate or
> permission for that. It is basically, a "forum" for Sadhaks to help
> the Sadhaks by virtue of their own experiences and knowledge. Let
us
> keep it this way and not dilute the effect (or effort).
>
> About new name etc.
> Why not use www.siddhashram.net I think that it is a good idea as
> this forum is basically a network of Sadhaks of Siddhashram.
> This domain is in name of Gurudham . We can ask Gurudev for
> permission to use this domain name. This will also create less
> confusion, as www.siddhashram.net will be a logical extension of
> www.siddhashram.org
>
> As this site is basically an addition of the main site, so I don't
> see any need for having multiple names. This , again might confuse
> the new comers. If at all, you are keen to take a new name, then
> probably, the best way forward is to propose a list of names to
Pujya
> Trimurti Gurudevji and get a name chosen/allocated by Them. This
> will also mean getting a Divine Aashirwaad and blessings for the
task.
> Moroever, I will also strongly recommend making Delhi or Jodhpur
> Gurudham as the main domain owner instead of any single individual.
> You can take it in name of any of the three Gurudevs. I am willing
to
> spend the money for taking the domain name in Gurudev's name , as
it
> is Guru Sewa.
>
> Jai Gurudev
>
> --- In issplist@y..., zm1603@h... wrote:
> > -JAIGURUDEV
> > Birendra singh ji has some excellent suggestions. As for the name
> both
> > sadhak and shakti are good, but why not combine them:
> > Sadhna ki shakti (that will make it more self explanatory to a
new
> > surfer) with the same essence
> > Good wishes, and Jai Gurudev

04-03-2001, 08:38 AM

Jai Gurudev.
Sorry my mistake. Did a knee jerk reaction instead of reading the new
mails! Sorry. My apologies! U are correct. We wont go into a new
domain name, and will proceed with brinkster.

People have been highly enthusiastic about this., and responses keep
pouring in. And the americas is just getting into mid-day (depending
on time zone) & oz (aussies) are sleeping! So,, let's wait for 2
whole days. I propose to people to give in ideas in following format
.. We will wait until Thursday 5 April 2001 23:30 hours GMT., and then
I will consolidate the entire list & add all the received_responses
to this list. The list will be updated and published tomorrow.

Anuragji, have u got the numerology book (Ank Pradipika or any other
numerology bookauthored by Gurudev). Can u please check for the
numerology result of these names , and certify the most_correct
names. Any other volunteers to check the name numerologically? I,
unfortunately, do not have the book here.

|| OM PARAMTATVAYE NARAYANAYE GURUBHAYO NAMAH ||

Status as on 3 April 2001 : 1930 GMT:

1. The current entries for the "WHATEVER_WE_LIKE_IF_AVAILABLE."
(i.e. name) are (sorry, formatting maybe hazy!) -
votes recvd till date (3/4/1:1930)
a. shakti 1+1
b. sadhak/sadhaks 1+1+1
c. sadhnakishakti 1
d. nikhileshwaram 1
e. Gurudev 1
f.Guruparampara 1
g.sadhana 1
h.issp 1+1
j.voiceofsadhaks 1+1
k.disciples 1
l.shishyanet 1

2. The data for this NEW site will be picked up from postings into
this (issplist) discussion group. The preamble of this site is- "This
site would work as a filter and prevent siddhashram.org from being
jam packed with junk.
The currently proposed sections for the NEW site are the following:
a. "My Experiences with Gurudev". (how did I meet Gurudev,
benefits/effects in my life, plus containing stuff similar to "We
have witnessed Divinity" from Sadhaks posting into issplist
discussion group)
b. "Sadhna Camp from a Sadhak's perspective" (experience of Sadhaks
about what they saw in shivir(sadhna camp), how shivir is conducted,
arrangement of food & lodging in shivir, how many people attended
etc. etc.)
c. "Divine Experiences in Sadhana" ( might get very,very few
responses due to restriction on telling others about Sadhana
expereinces)
d. Summary of main postings on issplist discussion group
e. "Comments/Analysis of various books"
f. Collection of additions to FAQ and glossary sections. ( This
will be periodically submitted to Gurudham. Once they upload
authentic answers to official FAQ & glossary , then this section will
be cleared/reset). Current entries are -
1. ideal time to perform sadhana
2. best time to get up
g. Comments/description about various audio cassettes
h. articles on meditation, spirituality, traatak, kundalini,
yogic_asana, mantra pronunciation etc. etc. (from Sadhak's
perspective)
i. other general issues concerning sadhaks (any misc. issues)

3. The "improvement wish list" on www.siddhashram.org is -
a. More photographs of Gurudev
b. Need to upload details of all back issues (categorised by
yearwise/sadhna wise - birendraji)
c. More audio & video (from Birendraji. long term plan.we need to
agree upon a proposed technical solution )
d. books in pdfs/zip format (from Birendraji. possible
copyright/trademark issue)
e. Better categorisation of Sadhanas on Sadhana page (from Birendraji
& Charanjitji)
(proposing two categories, one for purpose
(wealth/intelligence etc.) and another for deity)
f. Addition of details on Anusthaan and Havan in Sadhana page
g. FAQ updates (TOBE DELETED. This is not required.most of entries
already in FAQ)
add entries not already on FAQ eg. ideal time to perform
Sadhana, best time to get up
h. Search Engine Improvements. (from charanjitji. detailed
reqmnts/views/discrepencies/improvements awaited)
i. Speed Improvement. (need to reduce image sizes)
j. Addition of "Anusthaan" & "Hawan details" in Sadhana section
k. strategy for linking to portals (from Birendraji. Actual howto
is to be decided.)

Jai Gurudev

--- In issplist@y..., nikhilashish@y... wrote:
> JAI GURUDEV
>
> Dear Arvind,
>
> We are not going for any paid service right now, so we can't have
> names like www.siddhashram.net. The naming patter of Brinkster
(which
> we would be using if we have no better alternative) is like
> www14.brinkster.com/WHATEVER_WE_LIKE_IF_AVAILABLE.
>
> We are building a forum, an extension for siddhashram.org. Let's
not
> make things more complicated. Let's get started using a free
service
> and make it grow. If anything is worthy to be included in
> siddhashram.org, Guruji will have it included. We are implementing
> just a filter, not a fulfledged website.
>
> As you have suggested, we must make sure that these two sites do
not
> compete and anything like siddhashram.net would be a sure
competition.
>
> Now, I need your help.
>
> 1. Suggest a short, easy to remember, worthy, relevant name which
> fits in the above mentioned name.
>
> 2. There are many suggetions regarding the sections in the new
site.
> I am confused. Please, consult everyone and give me the final
verdict.
>
> Without these two informations, I can't proceed. Please,
concentrate
> on these two.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ashish Marathe
> JAI GURUDEV
>
> --- In issplist@y..., arvind_sharma@b... wrote:
> > Jai Gurudev
> >
> > I think that www.siddhashram.org is a better platform for putting
> > details of all old magazines/books/audio/video etc.. I am sure
that
> > work in this direction is already being done in Jodhpur Gurudham.
> > Slowly and steadily, they are uploading most of the things on the
> > official website.
> > I am not very confortable with the putting of books into pdf
> format.
> > Because, most of Gurudev's books were published by publishers
like
> > Dehati Pushtak Bhandar, Pushtak Mahal etc., and there will be
> > copyright issues involved.
> > So, I will rather advice against putting the entire book online.
> > However, having said, putting in some excerpt of the
book/magazine
> > like 1-2 chapters etc. will be a better thing. This will give an
> idea
> > to a new person about the content of the book, and will prompt
and
> > encourage him to buy a new book.
> > A good Guru Sewa might be to actually type in or scan some
chapters
> > of each book and mail that to mtyv@s...
> >
> > Let us not forget that a major part of money from
book/cassettes
> > selling goes towards charitable activities. Let us not suffocate
> the
> > charity bit in this process.
> > A person who pays money to buy book or for Diksha etc. actually
> does
> > a "Dhan Daan" , and wipes out part of his karma.
> > I don't like giving away things free. A person getting a free
> handout
> > never, never appreciates the importance of it. Charge him a token
> > amount to "make " it worthful.
> >
> > Secondly, we have to be very, very careful to ensure that both
> sites
> > do not compete with each other. The synergy of both should
> complement
> > , and be mutually rewarding to each. That means, that the new
site
> > sud not go into official issues like publication of magazine old
> > issues, books etc. That is remit of www.siddhashram.org , and it
is
> > already doing it. It is in process of putting in audio,video
etc.
> > Let us not duplicate what already is being done. However, the new
> > site can have some comments on books etc. by various Sadhaks. We
> can
> > also have some English translation of Gurudev's old books. How
many
> > people know that Gurudev actually wrote more than 600 books.
There
> > are hundreds of books on astrology, ayurveda etc. Most of those
> books
> > (¬80%) are actually out of print, and very few people have got
> > copies. Let us get details of those books and put that on the
net.
> > Let people contribute about their experiences in shivir etc. Any
> new
> > person joining in is interested in knowing what a shivir (sadhana
> > camp) is like, how is it conducted? someone can write details on
> this
> > based on his own expereinces. Yes, I know that stuff like this
> might
> > be more difficult than just typing/scanning of existing
> mags&books,
> > but then as Gurudev said - "Sewa Dharam Ati Kathora" (Service to
> Guru
> > is very, very difficult)
> >
> > Let us take tough tasks. Problems might come. Let us challenge
> these
> > problems and overcome them.
> > Let us not go into anything official. We do not have a mandate or
> > permission for that. It is basically, a "forum" for Sadhaks to
help
> > the Sadhaks by virtue of their own experiences and knowledge. Let
> us
> > keep it this way and not dilute the effect (or effort).
> >
> > About new name etc.
> > Why not use www.siddhashram.net I think that it is a good idea
as
> > this forum is basically a network of Sadhaks of Siddhashram.
> > This domain is in name of Gurudham . We can ask Gurudev for
> > permission to use this domain name. This will also create less
> > confusion, as www.siddhashram.net will be a logical extension of
> > www.siddhashram.org
> >
> > As this site is basically an addition of the main site, so I
don't
> > see any need for having multiple names. This , again might
confuse
> > the new comers. If at all, you are keen to take a new name, then
> > probably, the best way forward is to propose a list of names to
> Pujya
> > Trimurti Gurudevji and get a name chosen/allocated by Them. This
> > will also mean getting a Divine Aashirwaad and blessings for the
> task.
> > Moroever, I will also strongly recommend making Delhi or Jodhpur
> > Gurudham as the main domain owner instead of any single
individual.
> > You can take it in name of any of the three Gurudevs. I am
willing
> to
> > spend the money for taking the domain name in Gurudev's name , as
> it
> > is Guru Sewa.
> >
> > Jai Gurudev
> >
> > --- In issplist@y..., zm1603@h... wrote:
> > > -JAIGURUDEV
> > > Birendra singh ji has some excellent suggestions. As for the
name
> > both
> > > sadhak and shakti are good, but why not combine them:
> > > Sadhna ki shakti (that will make it more self explanatory to a
> new
> > > surfer) with the same essence
> > > Good wishes, and Jai Gurudev

04-03-2001, 08:54 AM

Excellent. Simply superb. In the meantime (till April 5, 2001 23:30
GMT), I'll take care of the mechanism and code.

Good luck...

Ashish Marathe

--- In issplist@y..., arvind_sharma@b... wrote:
> Jai Gurudev.
> Sorry my mistake. Did a knee jerk reaction instead of reading the
new
> mails! Sorry. My apologies! U are correct. We wont go into a new
> domain name, and will proceed with brinkster.
>
> People have been highly enthusiastic about this., and responses
keep
> pouring in. And the americas is just getting into mid-day
(depending
> on time zone) & oz (aussies) are sleeping! So,, let's wait for 2
> whole days. I propose to people to give in ideas in following
format
> . We will wait until Thursday 5 April 2001 23:30 hours GMT., and
then
> I will consolidate the entire list & add all the
received_responses
> to this list. The list will be updated and published tomorrow.
>
> Anuragji, have u got the numerology book (Ank Pradipika or any
other
> numerology bookauthored by Gurudev). Can u please check for the
> numerology result of these names , and certify the most_correct
> names. Any other volunteers to check the name numerologically? I,
> unfortunately, do not have the book here.
>
> || OM PARAMTATVAYE NARAYANAYE GURUBHAYO NAMAH ||
>
> Status as on 3 April 2001 : 1930 GMT:
>
> 1. The current entries for the "WHATEVER_WE_LIKE_IF_AVAILABLE."
> (i.e. name) are (sorry, formatting maybe hazy!) -
> votes recvd till date (3/4/1:1930)
> a. shakti 1+1
> b. sadhak/sadhaks 1+1+1
> c. sadhnakishakti 1
> d. nikhileshwaram 1
> e. Gurudev 1
> f.Guruparampara 1
> g.sadhana 1
> h.issp 1+1
> j.voiceofsadhaks 1+1
> k.disciples 1
> l.shishyanet 1
>
>
> 2. The data for this NEW site will be picked up from postings into
> this (issplist) discussion group. The preamble of this site is-
"This
> site would work as a filter and prevent siddhashram.org from being
> jam packed with junk.
> The currently proposed sections for the NEW site are the following:
> a. "My Experiences with Gurudev". (how did I meet Gurudev,
> benefits/effects in my life, plus containing stuff similar to "We
> have witnessed Divinity" from Sadhaks posting into issplist
> discussion group)
> b. "Sadhna Camp from a Sadhak's perspective" (experience of
Sadhaks
> about what they saw in shivir(sadhna camp), how shivir is
conducted,
> arrangement of food & lodging in shivir, how many people attended
> etc. etc.)
> c. "Divine Experiences in Sadhana" ( might get very,very few
> responses due to restriction on telling others about Sadhana
> expereinces)
> d. Summary of main postings on issplist discussion group
> e. "Comments/Analysis of various books"
> f. Collection of additions to FAQ and glossary sections. ( This
> will be periodically submitted to Gurudham. Once they upload
> authentic answers to official FAQ & glossary , then this section
will
> be cleared/reset). Current entries are -
> 1. ideal time to perform sadhana
> 2. best time to get up
> g. Comments/description about various audio cassettes
> h. articles on meditation, spirituality, traatak, kundalini,
> yogic_asana, mantra pronunciation etc. etc. (from Sadhak's
> perspective)
> i. other general issues concerning sadhaks (any misc. issues)
>
>
> 3. The "improvement wish list" on www.siddhashram.org is -
> a. More photographs of Gurudev
> b. Need to upload details of all back issues (categorised by
> yearwise/sadhna wise - birendraji)
> c. More audio & video (from Birendraji. long term plan.we need to
> agree upon a proposed technical solution )
> d. books in pdfs/zip format (from Birendraji. possible
> copyright/trademark issue)
> e. Better categorisation of Sadhanas on Sadhana page (from
Birendraji
> & Charanjitji)
> (proposing two categories, one for purpose
> (wealth/intelligence etc.) and another for deity)
> f. Addition of details on Anusthaan and Havan in Sadhana page
> g. FAQ updates (TOBE DELETED. This is not required.most of entries
> already in FAQ)
> add entries not already on FAQ eg. ideal time to perform
> Sadhana, best time to get up
> h. Search Engine Improvements. (from charanjitji. detailed
> reqmnts/views/discrepencies/improvements awaited)
> i. Speed Improvement. (need to reduce image sizes)
> j. Addition of "Anusthaan" & "Hawan details" in Sadhana section
> k. strategy for linking to portals (from Birendraji. Actual
howto
> is to be decided.)
>
>
> Jai Gurudev

04-03-2001, 09:02 AM

Yup! i have the book and have read it too. I can calculate the number but
i don't know with whim should we relate it to to find out it will be good
for whom

Best Regards,
Anurag

Ph: 527 6100
527 6108 extn. 4373

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 arvind_sharma@... wrote:

> Jai Gurudev.
> Sorry my mistake. Did a knee jerk reaction instead of reading the new
> mails! Sorry. My apologies! U are correct. We wont go into a new
> domain name, and will proceed with brinkster.
>
> People have been highly enthusiastic about this., and responses keep
> pouring in. And the americas is just getting into mid-day (depending
> on time zone) & oz (aussies) are sleeping! So,, let's wait for 2
> whole days. I propose to people to give in ideas in following format
> . We will wait until Thursday 5 April 2001 23:30 hours GMT., and then
> I will consolidate the entire list & add all the received_responses
> to this list. The list will be updated and published tomorrow.
>
> Anuragji, have u got the numerology book (Ank Pradipika or any other
> numerology bookauthored by Gurudev). Can u please check for the
> numerology result of these names , and certify the most_correct
> names. Any other volunteers to check the name numerologically? I,
> unfortunately, do not have the book here.
>
> || OM PARAMTATVAYE NARAYANAYE GURUBHAYO NAMAH ||
>
> Status as on 3 April 2001 : 1930 GMT:
>
> 1. The current entries for the "WHATEVER_WE_LIKE_IF_AVAILABLE."
> (i.e. name) are (sorry, formatting maybe hazy!) -
> votes recvd till date (3/4/1:1930)
> a. shakti 1+1
> b. sadhak/sadhaks 1+1+1
> c. sadhnakishakti 1
> d. nikhileshwaram 1
> e. Gurudev 1
> f.Guruparampara 1
> g.sadhana 1
> h.issp 1+1
> j.voiceofsadhaks 1+1
> k.disciples 1
> l.shishyanet 1
>
>
> 2. The data for this NEW site will be picked up from postings into
> this (issplist) discussion group. The preamble of this site is- "This
> site would work as a filter and prevent siddhashram.org from being
> jam packed with junk.
> The currently proposed sections for the NEW site are the following:
> a. "My Experiences with Gurudev". (how did I meet Gurudev,
> benefits/effects in my life, plus containing stuff similar to "We
> have witnessed Divinity" from Sadhaks posting into issplist
> discussion group)
> b. "Sadhna Camp from a Sadhak's perspective" (experience of Sadhaks
> about what they saw in shivir(sadhna camp), how shivir is conducted,
> arrangement of food & lodging in shivir, how many people attended
> etc. etc.)
> c. "Divine Experiences in Sadhana" ( might get very,very few
> responses due to restriction on telling others about Sadhana
> expereinces)
> d. Summary of main postings on issplist discussion group
> e. "Comments/Analysis of various books"
> f. Collection of additions to FAQ and glossary sections. ( This
> will be periodically submitted to Gurudham. Once they upload
> authentic answers to official FAQ & glossary , then this section will
> be cleared/reset). Current entries are -
> 1. ideal time to perform sadhana
> 2. best time to get up
> g. Comments/description about various audio cassettes
> h. articles on meditation, spirituality, traatak, kundalini,
> yogic_asana, mantra pronunciation etc. etc. (from Sadhak's
> perspective)
> i. other general issues concerning sadhaks (any misc. issues)
>
>
> 3. The "improvement wish list" on www.siddhashram.org is -
> a. More photographs of Gurudev
> b. Need to upload details of all back issues (categorised by
> yearwise/sadhna wise - birendraji)
> c. More audio & video (from Birendraji. long term plan.we need to
> agree upon a proposed technical solution )
> d. books in pdfs/zip format (from Birendraji. possible
> copyright/trademark issue)
> e. Better categorisation of Sadhanas on Sadhana page (from Birendraji
> & Charanjitji)
> (proposing two categories, one for purpose
> (wealth/intelligence etc.) and another for deity)
> f. Addition of details on Anusthaan and Havan in Sadhana page
> g. FAQ updates (TOBE DELETED. This is not required.most of entries
> already in FAQ)
> add entries not already on FAQ eg. ideal time to perform
> Sadhana, best time to get up
> h. Search Engine Improvements. (from charanjitji. detailed
> reqmnts/views/discrepencies/improvements awaited)
> i. Speed Improvement. (need to reduce image sizes)
> j. Addition of "Anusthaan" & "Hawan details" in Sadhana section
> k. strategy for linking to portals (from Birendraji. Actual howto
> is to be decided.)
>
>
> Jai Gurudev
>
> --- In issplist@y..., nikhilashish@y... wrote:
> > JAI GURUDEV
> >
> > Dear Arvind,
> >
> > We are not going for any paid service right now, so we can't have
> > names like www.siddhashram.net. The naming patter of Brinkster
> (which
> > we would be using if we have no better alternative) is like
> > www14.brinkster.com/WHATEVER_WE_LIKE_IF_AVAILABLE.
> >
> > We are building a forum, an extension for siddhashram.org. Let's
> not
> > make things more complicated. Let's get started using a free
> service
> > and make it grow. If anything is worthy to be included in
> > siddhashram.org, Guruji will have it included. We are implementing
> > just a filter, not a fulfledged website.
> >
> > As you have suggested, we must make sure that these two sites do
> not
> > compete and anything like siddhashram.net would be a sure
> competition.
> >
> > Now, I need your help.
> >
> > 1. Suggest a short, easy to remember, worthy, relevant name which
> > fits in the above mentioned name.
> >
> > 2. There are many suggetions regarding the sections in the new
> site.
> > I am confused. Please, consult everyone and give me the final
> verdict.
> >
> > Without these two informations, I can't proceed. Please,
> concentrate
> > on these two.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ashish Marathe
> > JAI GURUDEV
> >
> > --- In issplist@y..., arvind_sharma@b... wrote:
> > > Jai Gurudev
> > >
> > > I think that www.siddhashram.org is a better platform for putting
> > > details of all old magazines/books/audio/video etc.. I am sure
> that
> > > work in this direction is already being done in Jodhpur Gurudham.
> > > Slowly and steadily, they are uploading most of the things on the
> > > official website.
> > > I am not very confortable with the putting of books into pdf
> > format.
> > > Because, most of Gurudev's books were published by publishers
> like
> > > Dehati Pushtak Bhandar, Pushtak Mahal etc., and there will be
> > > copyright issues involved.
> > > So, I will rather advice against putting the entire book online.
> > > However, having said, putting in some excerpt of the
> book/magazine
> > > like 1-2 chapters etc. will be a better thing. This will give an
> > idea
> > > to a new person about the content of the book, and will prompt
> and
> > > encourage him to buy a new book.
> > > A good Guru Sewa might be to actually type in or scan some
> chapters
> > > of each book and mail that to mtyv@s...
> > >
> > > Let us not forget that a major part of money from
> book/cassettes
> > > selling goes towards charitable activities. Let us not suffocate
> > the
> > > charity bit in this process.
> > > A person who pays money to buy book or for Diksha etc. actually
> > does
> > > a "Dhan Daan" , and wipes out part of his karma.
> > > I don't like giving away things free. A person getting a free
> > handout
> > > never, never appreciates the importance of it. Charge him a token
> > > amount to "make " it worthful.
> > >
> > > Secondly, we have to be very, very careful to ensure that both
> > sites
> > > do not compete with each other. The synergy of both should
> > complement
> > > , and be mutually rewarding to each. That means, that the new
> site
> > > sud not go into official issues like publication of magazine old
> > > issues, books etc. That is remit of www.siddhashram.org , and it
> is
> > > already doing it. It is in process of putting in audio,video
> etc.
> > > Let us not duplicate what already is being done. However, the new
> > > site can have some comments on books etc. by various Sadhaks. We
> > can
> > > also have some English translation of Gurudev's old books. How
> many
> > > people know that Gurudev actually wrote more than 600 books.
> There
> > > are hundreds of books on astrology, ayurveda etc. Most of those
> > books
> > > (¬80%) are actually out of print, and very few people have got
> > > copies. Let us get details of those books and put that on the
> net.
> > > Let people contribute about their experiences in shivir etc. Any
> > new
> > > person joining in is interested in knowing what a shivir (sadhana
> > > camp) is like, how is it conducted? someone can write details on
> > this
> > > based on his own expereinces. Yes, I know that stuff like this
> > might
> > > be more difficult than just typing/scanning of existing
> > mags&books,
> > > but then as Gurudev said - "Sewa Dharam Ati Kathora" (Service to
> > Guru
> > > is very, very difficult)
> > >
> > > Let us take tough tasks. Problems might come. Let us challenge
> > these
> > > problems and overcome them.
> > > Let us not go into anything official. We do not have a mandate or
> > > permission for that. It is basically, a "forum" for Sadhaks to
> help
> > > the Sadhaks by virtue of their own experiences and knowledge. Let
> > us
> > > keep it this way and not dilute the effect (or effort).
> > >
> > > About new name etc.
> > > Why not use www.siddhashram.net I think that it is a good idea
> as
> > > this forum is basically a network of Sadhaks of Siddhashram.
> > > This domain is in name of Gurudham . We can ask Gurudev for
> > > permission to use this domain name. This will also create less
> > > confusion, as www.siddhashram.net will be a logical extension of
> > > www.siddhashram.org
> > >
> > > As this site is basically an addition of the main site, so I
> don't
> > > see any need for having multiple names. This , again might
> confuse
> > > the new comers. If at all, you are keen to take a new name, then
> > > probably, the best way forward is to propose a list of names to
> > Pujya
> > > Trimurti Gurudevji and get a name chosen/allocated by Them. This
> > > will also mean getting a Divine Aashirwaad and blessings for the
> > task.
> > > Moroever, I will also strongly recommend making Delhi or Jodhpur
> > > Gurudham as the main domain owner instead of any single
> individual.
> > > You can take it in name of any of the three Gurudevs. I am
> willing
> > to
> > > spend the money for taking the domain name in Gurudev's name , as
> > it
> > > is Guru Sewa.
> > >
> > > Jai Gurudev
> > >
> > > --- In issplist@y..., zm1603@h... wrote:
> > > > -JAIGURUDEV
> > > > Birendra singh ji has some excellent suggestions. As for the
> name
> > > both
> > > > sadhak and shakti are good, but why not combine them:
> > > > Sadhna ki shakti (that will make it more self explanatory to a
> > new
> > > > surfer) with the same essence
> > > > Good wishes, and Jai Gurudev
>
>
>
> Jay Gurudev
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

04-03-2001, 09:26 AM

Jai Gurudev
Maybe relate to "Sidhashram" or "Gurudev" or Gurudev's full name i.e.
(Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali) or (Paramhans Swami Nikhileshwaranandji)

alternatively, someone staying in Delhi can ask Shrivastavaji!!
Wait until 5/4. By then, we wud have isolated a few names depending
on majority!

Jai Gurudev

--- In issplist@y..., Anurag Goel wrote:
>
> Yup! i have the book and have read it too. I can calculate the
number but
> i don't know with whim should we relate it to to find out it will
be good
> for whom
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Anurag
>
> Ph: 527 6100
> 527 6108 extn. 4373
>
>
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 arvind_sharma@b... wrote:
>
> > Jai Gurudev.
> > Sorry my mistake. Did a knee jerk reaction instead of reading the
new
> > mails! Sorry. My apologies! U are correct. We wont go into a new
> > domain name, and will proceed with brinkster.
> >
> > People have been highly enthusiastic about this., and responses
keep
> > pouring in. And the americas is just getting into mid-day
(depending
> > on time zone) & oz (aussies) are sleeping! So,, let's wait for 2
> > whole days. I propose to people to give in ideas in following
format
> > . We will wait until Thursday 5 April 2001 23:30 hours GMT., and
then
> > I will consolidate the entire list & add all the
received_responses
> > to this list. The list will be updated and published tomorrow.
> >
> > Anuragji, have u got the numerology book (Ank Pradipika or any
other
> > numerology bookauthored by Gurudev). Can u please check for the
> > numerology result of these names , and certify the most_correct
> > names. Any other volunteers to check the name numerologically? I,
> > unfortunately, do not have the book here.
> >
> > || OM PARAMTATVAYE NARAYANAYE GURUBHAYO NAMAH ||
> >
> > Status as on 3 April 2001 : 1930 GMT:
> >
> > 1. The current entries for the "WHATEVER_WE_LIKE_IF_AVAILABLE."
> > (i.e. name) are (sorry, formatting maybe hazy!) -
> > votes recvd till date (3/4/1:1930)
> > a. shakti 1+1
> > b. sadhak/sadhaks 1+1+1
> > c. sadhnakishakti 1
> > d. nikhileshwaram 1
> > e. Gurudev 1
> > f.Guruparampara 1
> > g.sadhana 1
> > h.issp 1+1
> > j.voiceofsadhaks 1+1
> > k.disciples 1
> > l.shishyanet 1
> >
> >
> > 2. The data for this NEW site will be picked up from postings
into
> > this (issplist) discussion group. The preamble of this site is-
"This
> > site would work as a filter and prevent siddhashram.org from being
> > jam packed with junk.
> > The currently proposed sections for the NEW site are the
following:
> > a. "My Experiences with Gurudev". (how did I meet Gurudev,
> > benefits/effects in my life, plus containing stuff similar to "We
> > have witnessed Divinity" from Sadhaks posting into issplist
> > discussion group)
> > b. "Sadhna Camp from a Sadhak's perspective" (experience of
Sadhaks
> > about what they saw in shivir(sadhna camp), how shivir is
conducted,
> > arrangement of food & lodging in shivir, how many people attended
> > etc. etc.)
> > c. "Divine Experiences in Sadhana" ( might get very,very few
> > responses due to restriction on telling others about Sadhana
> > expereinces)
> > d. Summary of main postings on issplist discussion group
> > e. "Comments/Analysis of various books"
> > f. Collection of additions to FAQ and glossary sections. ( This
> > will be periodically submitted to Gurudham. Once they upload
> > authentic answers to official FAQ & glossary , then this section
will
> > be cleared/reset). Current entries are -
> > 1. ideal time to perform sadhana
> > 2. best time to get up
> > g. Comments/description about various audio cassettes
> > h. articles on meditation, spirituality, traatak, kundalini,
> > yogic_asana, mantra pronunciation etc. etc. (from Sadhak's
> > perspective)
> > i. other general issues concerning sadhaks (any misc. issues)
> >
> >
> > 3. The "improvement wish list" on www.siddhashram.org is -
> > a. More photographs of Gurudev
> > b. Need to upload details of all back issues (categorised by
> > yearwise/sadhna wise - birendraji)
> > c. More audio & video (from Birendraji. long term plan.we need to
> > agree upon a proposed technical solution )
> > d. books in pdfs/zip format (from Birendraji. possible
> > copyright/trademark issue)
> > e. Better categorisation of Sadhanas on Sadhana page (from
Birendraji
> > & Charanjitji)
> > (proposing two categories, one for purpose
> > (wealth/intelligence etc.) and another for deity)
> > f. Addition of details on Anusthaan and Havan in Sadhana page
> > g. FAQ updates (TOBE DELETED. This is not required.most of entries
> > already in FAQ)
> > add entries not already on FAQ eg. ideal time to perform
> > Sadhana, best time to get up
> > h. Search Engine Improvements. (from charanjitji. detailed
> > reqmnts/views/discrepencies/improvements awaited)
> > i. Speed Improvement. (need to reduce image sizes)
> > j. Addition of "Anusthaan" & "Hawan details" in Sadhana
section
> > k. strategy for linking to portals (from Birendraji. Actual
howto
> > is to be decided.)
> >
> >
> > Jai Gurudev
> >
> > --- In issplist@y..., nikhilashish@y... wrote:
> > > JAI GURUDEV
> > >
> > > Dear Arvind,
> > >
> > > We are not going for any paid service right now, so we can't
have
> > > names like www.siddhashram.net. The naming patter of Brinkster
> > (which
> > > we would be using if we have no better alternative) is like
> > > www14.brinkster.com/WHATEVER_WE_LIKE_IF_AVAILABLE.
> > >
> > > We are building a forum, an extension for siddhashram.org. Let's
> > not
> > > make things more complicated. Let's get started using a free
> > service
> > > and make it grow. If anything is worthy to be included in
> > > siddhashram.org, Guruji will have it included. We are
implementing
> > > just a filter, not a fulfledged website.
> > >
> > > As you have suggested, we must make sure that these two sites do
> > not
> > > compete and anything like siddhashram.net would be a sure
> > competition.
> > >
> > > Now, I need your help.
> > >
> > > 1. Suggest a short, easy to remember, worthy, relevant name
which
> > > fits in the above mentioned name.
> > >
> > > 2. There are many suggetions regarding the sections in the new
> > site.
> > > I am confused. Please, consult everyone and give me the final
> > verdict.
> > >
> > > Without these two informations, I can't proceed. Please,
> > concentrate
> > > on these two.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Ashish Marathe
> > > JAI GURUDEV
> > >
> > > --- In issplist@y..., arvind_sharma@b... wrote:
> > > > Jai Gurudev
> > > >
> > > > I think that www.siddhashram.org is a better platform for
putting
> > > > details of all old magazines/books/audio/video etc.. I am sure
> > that
> > > > work in this direction is already being done in Jodhpur
Gurudham.
> > > > Slowly and steadily, they are uploading most of the things on
the
> > > > official website.
> > > > I am not very confortable with the putting of books into pdf
> > > format.
> > > > Because, most of Gurudev's books were published by publishers
> > like
> > > > Dehati Pushtak Bhandar, Pushtak Mahal etc., and there will be
> > > > copyright issues involved.
> > > > So, I will rather advice against putting the entire book
online.
> > > > However, having said, putting in some excerpt of the
> > book/magazine
> > > > like 1-2 chapters etc. will be a better thing. This will give
an
> > > idea
> > > > to a new person about the content of the book, and will prompt
> > and
> > > > encourage him to buy a new book.
> > > > A good Guru Sewa might be to actually type in or scan some
> > chapters
> > > > of each book and mail that to mtyv@s...
> > > >
> > > > Let us not forget that a major part of money from
> > book/cassettes
> > > > selling goes towards charitable activities. Let us not
suffocate
> > > the
> > > > charity bit in this process.
> > > > A person who pays money to buy book or for Diksha etc.
actually
> > > does
> > > > a "Dhan Daan" , and wipes out part of his karma.
> > > > I don't like giving away things free. A person getting a free
> > > handout
> > > > never, never appreciates the importance of it. Charge him a
token
> > > > amount to "make " it worthful.
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, we have to be very, very careful to ensure that both
> > > sites
> > > > do not compete with each other. The synergy of both should
> > > complement
> > > > , and be mutually rewarding to each. That means, that the new
> > site
> > > > sud not go into official issues like publication of magazine
old
> > > > issues, books etc. That is remit of www.siddhashram.org , and
it
> > is
> > > > already doing it. It is in process of putting in audio,video
> > etc.
> > > > Let us not duplicate what already is being done. However, the
new
> > > > site can have some comments on books etc. by various Sadhaks.
We
> > > can
> > > > also have some English translation of Gurudev's old books. How
> > many
> > > > people know that Gurudev actually wrote more than 600 books.
> > There
> > > > are hundreds of books on astrology, ayurveda etc. Most of
those
> > > books
> > > > (¬80%) are actually out of print, and very few people have got
> > > > copies. Let us get details of those books and put that on the
> > net.
> > > > Let people contribute about their experiences in shivir etc.
Any
> > > new
> > > > person joining in is interested in knowing what a shivir
(sadhana
> > > > camp) is like, how is it conducted? someone can write details
on
> > > this
> > > > based on his own expereinces. Yes, I know that stuff like this
> > > might
> > > > be more difficult than just typing/scanning of existing
> > > mags&books,
> > > > but then as Gurudev said - "Sewa Dharam Ati Kathora" (Service
to
> > > Guru
> > > > is very, very difficult)
> > > >
> > > > Let us take tough tasks. Problems might come. Let us challenge
> > > these
> > > > problems and overcome them.
> > > > Let us not go into anything official. We do not have a
mandate or
> > > > permission for that. It is basically, a "forum" for Sadhaks to
> > help
> > > > the Sadhaks by virtue of their own experiences and knowledge.
Let
> > > us
> > > > keep it this way and not dilute the effect (or effort).
> > > >
> > > > About new name etc.
> > > > Why not use www.siddhashram.net I think that it is a good
idea
> > as
> > > > this forum is basically a network of Sadhaks of Siddhashram.
> > > > This domain is in name of Gurudham . We can ask Gurudev for
> > > > permission to use this domain name. This will also create less
> > > > confusion, as www.siddhashram.net will be a logical extension
of
> > > > www.siddhashram.org
> > > >
> > > > As this site is basically an addition of the main site, so I
> > don't
> > > > see any need for having multiple names. This , again might
> > confuse
> > > > the new comers. If at all, you are keen to take a new name,
then
> > > > probably, the best way forward is to propose a list of names
to
> > > Pujya
> > > > Trimurti Gurudevji and get a name chosen/allocated by Them.
This
> > > > will also mean getting a Divine Aashirwaad and blessings for
the
> > > task.
> > > > Moroever, I will also strongly recommend making Delhi or
Jodhpur
> > > > Gurudham as the main domain owner instead of any single
> > individual.
> > > > You can take it in name of any of the three Gurudevs. I am
> > willing
> > > to
> > > > spend the money for taking the domain name in Gurudev's name
, as
> > > it
> > > > is Guru Sewa.
> > > >
> > > > Jai Gurudev
> > > >
> > > > --- In issplist@y..., zm1603@h... wrote:
> > > > > -JAIGURUDEV
> > > > > Birendra singh ji has some excellent suggestions. As for the
> > name
> > > > both
> > > > > sadhak and shakti are good, but why not combine them:
> > > > > Sadhna ki shakti (that will make it more self explanatory
to a
> > > new
> > > > > surfer) with the same essence
> > > > > Good wishes, and Jai Gurudev
> >
> >
> >
> > Jay Gurudev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >