sammhon&hyptonism

12-22-2000, 08:27 PM

JAY GURUDEV-

respected gurubhais and sisters
jay gurudev.

i wanted to know that poojya sadgurugi
before going to siddhashram had trained our
gurubhais in some special field of different
sadhana and procedures.
i wanted to know that is there any gurubhai
who has mastered in the science of sammhon and hyptonism?
if there is any gurubhai who is trained or know
this science very well can help lot of our gurubhais
suffering from various problems,
please give me a reply fast.
hope of full cooperation from all of you.
pujya sadguruji ki jay
pujya trimurti guruji ki jay
vadnani mataji ki jay
siddhashram sadhak parivar ki jay
from
vishal patel
pune
.

12-23-2000, 01:37 AM

Dear Vishal,
JAI GURUDEV

Your anxiety to know about the gurubhais who have achieved comlete success in
Sammohan and hytonism is correct, to some extent, as you may be new in this
sadhana field.

It is a FACT that a lot many number of our gurubhais have achieved the complete
success in different sadhnas including Sammohan and hypnotysm and they are
progressing further in different different fields as per the instructions of
Gurudevji. Success is achieved after great devotion and with the blessing of
Gurudevji, hence it is the first and prime most responsibility of such
gurubhais to act as per the Gurudevji's advice and such gurubhais must have
been involved in helping others for whom they are getting signals from
Gurudevji.

Secondly you are concerned about the help to other gurubhais in solving their
problems. Here, I would say that it is the Pride, Gaurav, Bhagya of our
Generation that we have Sakshat Trimurti Gurudevs to guide/advice us and take
us away from any sort of our problems.

When Sakshat Gurudevs are there, I feel, one should not even think of anyone to
solve our problems.

NIKHILESHWAR BHAGWAN KI JAI
Mohan Rathore
Jaipur
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JAY GURUDEV-respected gurubhais and sistersjay gurudev. i wanted to know
that poojya sadgurugibefore going to siddhashram had trained our gurubhais in
some special field of different sadhana and procedures. i wanted to
know that is there any gurubhaiwho has mastered in the science of sammhon and
hyptonism? if there is any gurubhai who is trained or know this science
very well can help lot of our gurubhais suffering from various problems,
please give me a reply fast. hope of full cooperation from all of you.
pujya sadguruji ki jay pujya trimurti guruji ki jay vadnani mataji ki jay
siddhashram sadhak parivar ki jayfrom vishal patelpune. Jay Gurudev

12-23-2000, 04:19 PM

jay gurudev
respected mohan sir.

thanks for yr advice and guidence.

the answer given by u was satisfactory but i think that if some
gurubhais can solve the problems of other gurubhais then it is not
worth to discuss small problems with poojya guruji.

i am telling this with according to my view but if i am mistaken
then i am sorry and please give me future more guidence.

vishal patel

12-23-2000, 10:48 PM

Dear Vishal,
JAI GURUDEV

You are not at all mistaken. We all the members of International Sidhasharam
Sadhak Parivar are learing a lot and learing the way of life from Gurudevji and
we are to help not only among ourselves but to guide and show a way to whole
society.

I had already told that successful gurubhais must be helping others for whom
they must be getting signals. The whole tantra and maya of Gurudevji is such
that the gurubhai, who is in need of help, gets help definitely, may it be from
gurubhai or someone else.

As regard to small problems, you are very right that we must not discuss with
poojya Gurudevs because Poojya Gurudevs have given a Guru Mantra which is known
as Maha Mantra. If we sincerely do Guru Mantra Sadhana, I am sure, not only the
small problems but bigger problems of our lives can also be solved permanently.

Poojya Gurudevs have time and again told that we should not believe in chamatkar
which is done automatically. Rather we should believe in Karma and for us karma
means Sadhna besides carrying out our social obligations/responsibilities. If we
do our Karma means regular sadhana and fulfilling our social
obligations/responsibilities, then there will not any small or big problem in
our life.

NIKHILESHWAR BHAGWAN KI JAI
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jay gurudevrespected mohan sir. thanks for yr advice and guidence.
the answer given by u was satisfactory but i think that if some gurubhais can
solve the problems of other gurubhais then it is not worth to discuss small
problems with poojya guruji. i am telling this with according to my view
but if i am mistaken then i am sorry and please give me future more guidence.
vishal patelJay Gurudev

12-27-2000, 12:31 AM

Dear Vishalbhai,
Jai Gurudev
Mohanji is very correct.
You should always discuss all your problems with Pujya Trimurti Gurudev
only and take Their advice.

A lot of Gurubhais claim that they have mastered so&so sadhana, but
mastering one (or even a couple of) Sadhana(s) is not everything. Sadhanas
are very elementary entities. As Pujya Sadgurudev said in one Pravachan
that " attaining success in Sadhanas is something like a child learning
basic alphabets.. Sadhanas are basic alpahabets. And when one gets a bit of
success in Sadhana, one starts showing it off to fellow humans like a child
starts writing the basic alphabets on all walls as soon as he learns them".

It is very easy to impress others by showing some "miracles" and proclaim
oneself as master. Anyone can do it by getting some success in any Sadhana.
A lot of people have done more greater harm to themselves by taking help
and advice of these so-called experts.
It is something akin to " a blind leading the lame". A blind Guru can only
teach about blindness leading to darkness of ignorance.

And even Guru Gita says that one should discuss all the issues with one's
Gurudev only and follow only Gurudev's advice.
So , my advice will be to contact the pujya Trimurti Gurudevs directly to
resolve the problems etc. Do not depend on such "masters" of sammohan and
hypnotism. Take Diksha from Gurudev, and perform Sadhana to become a
master yourself in these. Pujya Gurudev has given very durlabh (extremely
hard to get), and powerful Dikshas to us. Let us not abuse these powerful
Dikshas by turning to other "masters". Let us fulfil His dreams and make
use of these Dikshas by performing Sadhanas.

Jai Gurudev

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respected gurubhais and sisters
jay gurudev.

i wanted to know that poojya sadgurugi
before going to siddhashram had trained our
gurubhais in some special field of different
sadhana and procedures.
i wanted to know that is there any gurubhai
who has mastered in the science of sammhon and hyptonism?
if there is any gurubhai who is trained or know
this science very well can help lot of our gurubhais
suffering from various problems,
please give me a reply fast.
hope of full cooperation from all of you.
pujya sadguruji ki jay
pujya trimurti guruji ki jay
vadnani mataji ki jay
siddhashram sadhak parivar ki jay
from
vishal patel
pune
.

Jay Gurudev