what is difference between the kundalini reiki and kundalini shaktipat

To all the sadhu

Hi

I'm just curious in knowing the difference between the Kundalini
reiki attunement and the shaktipat. I was attune the kundalini reiki
until the master level and at level 2 and 3, the kundalini fire was
awaken until the crown cakra and you can actualy feel the energy
rising thru the shushumana but i have read many article on kundalini
and also on siddhashranm web, that awkening of Kundalini will lead to
possesion of siddhi power. Please help me to understand this, this
group member i believe is the right group to answer my question coz i
have read the experince of this group member on the shaktipat given
by Gurudev. Please help me.

regard
Manimaran

--- In issplist@y..., "pranavaci" <PRANAVACI@Y...> wrote:
>
> To all the sadhu
>
> Hi
>
> I'm just curious in knowing the difference between the Kundalini
> reiki attunement and the shaktipat. I was attune the kundalini
reiki
> until the master level and at level 2 and 3, the kundalini fire was
> awaken until the crown cakra and you can actualy feel the energy
> rising thru the shushumana but i have read many article on
kundalini
> and also on siddhashranm web, that awkening of Kundalini will lead
to
> possesion of siddhi power. Please help me to understand this, this
> group member i believe is the right group to answer my question coz
i
> have read the experince of this group member on the shaktipat given
> by Gurudev. Please help me.
>





what do you do in reiki? can you explain the reiki philosophy that
you know, and who started this reiki thing and name some people who
were famous in this field.

as per my understanding ,the raising of kundalini is followed by
entreing into a state of samadhi for sometime, but i think one has to
still keep regular efforts to stabilise it there, and one siddhi that
comes with no effort is being able to see the past present and future


my kundalini is not rasied so i cant tell you much,i again feel that
if ones kundalini has raisen one would seamlessly slip into
meditation without much effort, and powers probaly may show up as one
starts to stabilize in it and probably the first power to come by is
knowing the present,past and future of the person you focus.




jai Gurudev

HI

Based on the history, Reiki was founded by Dr Mikao Usui at Furuma at
Japan, He got enligtment and since the he able to heal the sickness.
The reiki according to Usui tradition was similar to Prana shakty
whereby during the attunement the cakra at ourbody was opened and we
can excess the energy at will. The sory goes that during the process
the muladhara cakra and the kundalini also awaken. i can describe
further but i acn able to attune people until level 3. If you want it
please sent me private mail.

regard
Manimaran



--- In issplist@y..., "birendra_m" <birendra_m@y...> wrote:
> --- In issplist@y..., "pranavaci" <PRANAVACI@Y...> wrote:
> >
> > To all the sadhu
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm just curious in knowing the difference between the Kundalini
> > reiki attunement and the shaktipat. I was attune the kundalini
> reiki
> > until the master level and at level 2 and 3, the kundalini fire
was
> > awaken until the crown cakra and you can actualy feel the energy
> > rising thru the shushumana but i have read many article on
> kundalini
> > and also on siddhashranm web, that awkening of Kundalini will
lead
> to
> > possesion of siddhi power. Please help me to understand this,
this
> > group member i believe is the right group to answer my question
coz
> i
> > have read the experince of this group member on the shaktipat
given
> > by Gurudev. Please help me.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> what do you do in reiki? can you explain the reiki philosophy that
> you know, and who started this reiki thing and name some people who
> were famous in this field.
>
> as per my understanding ,the raising of kundalini is followed by
> entreing into a state of samadhi for sometime, but i think one has
to
> still keep regular efforts to stabilise it there, and one siddhi
that
> comes with no effort is being able to see the past present and
future
>
>
> my kundalini is not rasied so i cant tell you much,i again feel
that
> if ones kundalini has raisen one would seamlessly slip into
> meditation without much effort, and powers probaly may show up as
one
> starts to stabilize in it and probably the first power to come by
is
> knowing the present,past and future of the person you focus.
>
>
>
>
> jai Gurudev

Let me comment on this from whta litle i know. According to my understanding
Reiki and Shaktipat
are related but i guess shaktipat is more intense and complete in comparison
to Reiki.

Reiki is more focused on providing healing to people so in sense it limits
itself to healing of the people
but yes if person keeps following spiritual practices he/she will move ahead
on the path of awakening kundalini.

I guess initial goal of reiki is to provide healing energy to others but of
Shaktipat is to make one realise
the oneness in the universe. Ofcourse reiki practice will later merge on the
same path.

A spiritual teacher whose kundalini in awakened in full is essential for
shaktipat and for the awakening of
kundalini. Complete Shaktipat can only be given by a teacher who is one with
God. Healing can be done even if some of the chakras get activated to some
percentage. So the energy required for healing can also be provided by
people
who still are yet to realize God but i am unsure as to how safe it will be.
This i say because i think a person whose kundalini is not awakened in full
and if that person gives shaktipat he won't be aware of which chakras of an
individual should be activated and in which amount.

Also the diseases which one is able to heal will depend on the spiritual
level of the individual.

Spiritual teacher does shaktipat depending on the level of the individual. A
person whos kundalini is not awakened
in full will not be able to know the state of individual and may not be able
to provide the energy in controlled way.

Even if someone has felt he energy pulsating in the all the chakras even
then it doesn't mean that ones kundalini
is awakened in full. Having felt the energy is like one has got the
admission in nursery class but a person still has to do a Phd to know God.
Such has been my experience.

Now and then one might get a glimpse of some spiritual powers but to feel
the stability of that power one still has to go a long way.

One has to move on this path very dedicatedly to keep moving forward on
this.

Pujya Gurudev has said that if your feeling the movement of energy that
means ur mind is week. I gues what he meant was when ur kundalini is
awakened you should be able to go beyond your body but if u r feeling
something happeing inside your body that means u r still aware of your body.
So a person should not focus on where the energy is flowing ans which powers
he has got rather devote himself to his spiritual teacher or diety in all.

All these are by products which will come anyway but if u focus on the these
you will not be able to tap the main product.

I have felt the energy in all chakras and had been trying to awaken sahasrar
chakra but still i don't think i was able to feel that oneness with Guurdev.
Its then i realised just by taking dikshaa and by getting some experieces
one doesn't achieve that state rather further efforts have to be put to
reach that state. If u mind is still distorted that means still u have to do
lot of work. Once your mind becomes all pure at that tme u can say that ur
kundalini is awakened in real sense.


Anurag


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>
>To all the sadhu
>
>Hi
>
>I'm just curious in knowing the difference between the Kundalini
>reiki attunement and the shaktipat. I was attune the kundalini reiki
>until the master level and at level 2 and 3, the kundalini fire was
>awaken until the crown cakra and you can actualy feel the energy
>rising thru the shushumana but i have read many article on kundalini
>and also on siddhashranm web, that awkening of Kundalini will lead to
>possesion of siddhi power. Please help me to understand this, this
>group member i believe is the right group to answer my question coz i
>have read the experince of this group member on the shaktipat given
>by Gurudev. Please help me.
>
>regard
>Manimaran
>
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