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Old 07-22-2008, 12:36 AM   #21
 
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Perfect explanation, very nicely said .....I agree with you 100%, it is not supression but sublimation that is the key.......

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Old 07-22-2008, 03:15 AM   #22
 
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Sure,

I agree you but the state you are talking is really tough to gain and it is a high sort of practice in Tantra, not applicable in all.....

Wet dreams to cause U lose Kundalini.... most of the Celibates respect the opposite sex as sister / mother / or the goddess....it depends on ppl.........

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Dear Passionate freak,

Whether it is tough or easy depends your strategy to deal with the energy. It is a tough task if you either supress it or repress it. Let me make a distinction between these two. Supression is conscious. You say "It is a wrong urge and hence I will not engage in it" . You simply control it with your iron will consciously. Repression is unconscious. You have managed to push it below the surface of consciousness. You will not experience the urge in you consciously anymore. In either case you have not managed to eliminate it. It is there and it will assert. It will seck expression constantly. In the case of Supression you know this consciously and control it consciously. In the case of repression you dont know it's presence consciously but it is there hidden. Then it expresses itself in various ways.

One way it expresses it is through dreams - It seeks fulfilment in dream. Dream is very much like a fantacy- only that you dont know you are doing it. In Proper fantacy - called daydreeming - you are doing it consciously , in dreaming you are doing it unconsciously. Appart from dreams, the repressed sexuality expresses it self in many strange ways symbolically . Various neurotic symptoms are nothing but the expressions of repressed sexuality. Though there are many many symptoms of this repressed sexuality one example I can give to show the expression of the repressed sexual urge that you might find interesting.

You know there are claims of cases of Spirit possession and god possession. Most of them are not any spirit or god. It is a disorder called Hysteria. If you watch them when they are thus possessed, they move their whole body rithemically and violently panting with noicy breathing and finally -when the entity leaves - fall down and remain rested for a wile.If you carefully notice the entire episode including the climax of falling down and resting - is the exact immitation of movement of sexual coitus. In the name of possession they esecute a symbolic couitus. this is the repressed sexuality manifesting itself - though the person doesnot see it that way.

Sexual ensegy like any other energy cannot be distroyed. It will not vanish if you truy to stop with an iron will or simplly deny its existance. Supression is like standing on the way of a wild bull and trying to stop it and control it with all your might with head on collosion. Repression is to run away from it's path and forget that it ever exists. Both are ineffective strategies. Sublimation is like, when the bull nears you just dodge from its path a little and jump on its very back and sitting firm there leting it do all its tricks till it gets tird, and then bridiling it and there by puting it to the service of some good purpose. We transform the beastly sexual energy and use its power to do some useful task. This is sublimation this is what is done in kundalini yoga. Kundalini is originally sexual energy. It is not difficult . It all dependas on the desciplining of the path and training. though I agree it is not as easy as I put it. It does require training and skill. But it can be done.

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sure, i agree u

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well jamaica what to say if you get into your subconscious and feel that you are having a cold shiver then you can its all in subconscious mind hey read the book by Dr. Narayan Dutta Shrimali which is entitled " HYPNOTISM" may be this will help you.
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e you know where to find this book, i fount this

Dr. Narayan Dutta Shrimali --Practical Hypnotism-- . is that the same one ?

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