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Old 01-14-1999, 05:28 AM   #1

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John and Mike,
Your opinions and knowledge are very much appreciated! Thank you

Audrey

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Old 01-14-1999, 07:08 AM   #2

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Think I lost Digest Number 9, Started to delete junk mail and accidentaly
deleted it.

I don't know if my experience when I mixed yoga and chi-gung was a result of
an overload of energy. I am more inclined to think the results occured
because I
mixed two systems almost like when you go out drinking and mix different
cocktails.
I however do believe both systems complement each other as long as you don't
do
them too close together.

I also believe you do not get any adverse effects if you learn to relax the
body. In this
way the energy flows more freely. There is also some Katas Martial Artists
use to
increase the Chi Channels(Allowing you to move more energy)

When practicing Chi Gung after a while you can feel the energy. Certain
positions
the hands become like magnets and you can almost mentally feel the play of
energy
between your hands. My personal opinion is that you can build energy faster
with Chi-Gung
but with Tai Chi you learn how to move it. Yoga you learn to stretch and relax
so the body
can use the energy. Breath exercises in yoga increases energy a lot.

I believe that it is possible to adversly affect an client with energy but
most people do
not reach that stage, to have to worry about it. I think the most common
problem occurs
when a practitioner projects energy into a patient and all the patients
chakras are
not open, the patient is unable to bring the energy up to the higher chakras,
and an
overdrive for sex will occur.(Unwanted pregnancies could be a result)

I think the worst enemy to energy development is sex, it depletes the resovoir
and even
if you mudras in yoga, or toaist pressure points were to be used during sex to
conserve energy,
the energy gained is tainted and not pure. (This is why I think a vegetarian
diet is good because
meat causes spikes in the brain pattern, when the energy starts to build if
its not pure you surely will fail).
That is why I believe there are hardly any true mystics, if any, in the world
today.

This is my personal opinion and I'm sure a lot of people will disagree.

John

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Old 01-14-1999, 11:15 PM   #3

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overall, i pretty much agree with you , John, except with a few minor
deviations...)
most people agree that sustaining from sex when first starting to
practice is a good idea. but once you have energy flow
i feel energy exchange with another person (sexual or non sexual) is the
easiest way to learn to move it.
personally, i feel enlightenment is a purely biological
mechanism(complete kundalini) proper diet, thinking, or action , IMHO,
are not responsible for it, although they can be attributed as after
affects.
i ended up being lucky in that i started practicing a martial art that
opens the first 4 chakras as a result of the movements(katas)and
specific mudra.but enerrgy movement is downplayed and some people don't
even realize the implications until later.
John, what is your defintion of a mystic?
the siddha abilities are similar to chi-gong abilities(and also match
the requirements for canonization in the catholic church)
just my .0 cents.
mike

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Old 01-14-1999, 11:23 PM   #4

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are we like, the only 3 people on this list?

i started with yoga, and know learn more to chi-gong.
i follow a form of buddhism( i am working on becoming ordained) that
has teachings that incorporates both disciplines.
there are differences in them,but i feel they are basically the same
vehicle going to the same place, but combining them really juices you
faster (pro or con) then either one by themselves
mike

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