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04-18-2009, 06:12 AM
I just chanced on the discussion. If as per jeffster "If that soul came into contact with Lord Rama, that meeting could be not other than auspicious for that soul. Just as all those who died within sight of Lord Krishna on the battlefield of Kurukshetra attained liberation.
If that is true, there should be somebody in this present age too, and by coming in contact with him, we can easily attain mukti. Is there one?-prasad.sh
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04-19-2009, 01:55 AM
Hello prasad,
According to Brahma Gaudiya Vaishnavism, that someone was Lord Chaitanya, who appeared in 1486 and stayed on the planet for 48 years. He taught us to easily gain Krishna-bhakti, encompassing mukti, by chanting the maha-mantra, the great chanting for deliverance in this difficult age of Kali-yuga, this degraded iron age of quarrel and hypocrisy. The maha-mantra you may know as the Hare Krishna maha-mantra:
Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare
Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.
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04-19-2009, 02:20 PM
Empty it is very rare that the lord comes down on this earth though there are many who claim to be incarnations satya sai nirmala devi present day kalki avtar claimer even baba gangaram is being considered a vishnu avtar by some
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04-19-2009, 04:17 PM
Empy, there is no scheduled incarnation until Kalki avatar appears next, in about 427,000 more years !! This would be a very long wait !! Best to chant the Holy Names NOW in order to have direct and timely divine communion with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Krishna. His names are transcendental, unlike ordinary names, which only represent an object, but are not synomymous with it. The Lord's names and He are non-different, thereby practically guaranteeing you a transcendentally refreshing experience. Try it !
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04-20-2009, 08:44 AM
Thank you jeffster.
I am a devotee of lord krishna, and Lord balaji, and Shiridi sai. - Chanting the lord's names- I do. thanks.-Prasad.
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04-20-2009, 09:00 AM
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Empty it is very rare that the lord comes down on this earth though there are many who claim to be incarnations satya sai nirmala devi present day kalki avtar claimer even baba gangaram is being considered a vishnu avtar by some
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I have some doubts about SatyaSaI. Others- I don't know. But, confirm your views about Satya sai, ' cause I went to him Twice, 10years back, but he didn't notice me. I am one in the crowd. few selected persons were granted private interview. That's what causes my doubt. Why satya sai is not accessable to all? why to only aselected few?-Prasad
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04-21-2009, 02:51 AM
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though there are many who claim
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i also have not met any of them
and satya sai hes been there
for many years i think he still has followers
but yes if you want to meet great souls
more than that if you want to follow them then you come to india meet meet he great vaishnavs -morari bapu,devkinanadanji,kripaluji maharaj the 5th jagadguru,hari chaitanya prabhu
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05-06-2009, 11:40 AM
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This can only be wishful thinking. Liberation is not possible without personal effort. Even if God stood in a personal form before you, unless you have the thirst for God, you can't perceive him as God.
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You're so certain of this and that, but you make so many assumptions.
In divine lila, things aren't what they look like. That's why it's called lila. Maybe one day you can appreciate that, that you are not the knower.
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05-06-2009, 11:42 AM
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Empty it is very rare that the lord comes down on this earth though there are many who claim to be incarnations satya sai nirmala devi present day kalki avtar claimer even baba gangaram is being considered a vishnu avtar by some
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some = those who want to be cheated
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05-06-2009, 04:00 PM
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You look sure they are cheaters
But baba gangaram is considered an avtar by many just, look at his site
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05-09-2009, 09:38 AM
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You look sure they are cheaters
But baba gangaram is considered an avtar by many just, look at his site
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I'm not going to. How many 'god men' are there out there?
I never said he was a bad person, I'm sure he does good work, but he's one of many.
I'm sure when you ask him about his claims to be god he simply says that actually everyone is god and he is just helping them realise that, blah blah blah.
Forgive my scepticism, but it isn't hard to get people to follow you in India, theres thousands of these people, they come and go.
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05-09-2009, 11:51 AM
I came to K.C. after studying Meher Baba, another so-called "god-man." Somehow, it just didn't seem right that God would just be some middle-aged guy. After that, I discovered Krishna Book in the library, and through Prabhupad's sublime exposition of Krishna consciousness, and his clever placing of the philosophy within the story line of Krishna lila, I became convinced of the viability of the Krishna conception of divinity.
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05-09-2009, 02:29 PM
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I'm not going to. How many 'god men' are there out there?
I never said he was a bad person, I'm sure he does good work, but he's one of many.
I'm sure when you ask him about his claims to be god he simply says that actually everyone is god and he is just helping them realise that, blah blah blah.
Forgive my scepticism, but it isn't hard to get people to follow you in India, theres thousands of these people, they come and go.
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i dont know about his teachings but i have seen him worshipped as vishnu .
they have his idols .
Bhajans on tv referring gangaram as vishnu.
he was born a long time ago.not there anymore.
only his disciple who also recently died.
They have propagated hi worship i think.
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05-10-2009, 12:42 PM
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i dont know about his teachings but i have seen him worshipped as vishnu .
they have his idols .
Bhajans on tv referring gangaram as vishnu.
he was born a long time ago.not there anymore.
only his disciple who also recently died.
They have propagated hi worship i think.

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So what?
You know that picture is a violation of BBT copyright?
The person who painted it DID NOT wish for this man's murthi to be put over the face of Krishna. It seem's this man's followers lack the artistic ability to paint pictures themselves.
Please tell me where this picture is from, it is illegal.
EDIT: I have founf their website, and emailed BBT about it.
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07-02-2009, 02:03 AM
I assume those excerpts are from the Ramayana. Were there any parts that you liked? What scripture/s do you recommend instead - if any?
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Then that resolute Rama on going into forest along with Soumitri hunted a robust-bodied, big Rohi animal, or, Kesari animal, and then he spread sacred grass on ground to place that offering to the deceased soul of that bird. [3-68-32
On drawing up the flesh of that Rohi animal and lumping it to gobbets, that highly observant Rama placed those gobbets on pleasant greenish pasturelands as obsequial offerings in respect of that bird Jataayu. [3-68-33]
How ignorant and cruel.
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07-02-2009, 02:24 AM
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I have some doubts about SatyaSaI. Others- I don't know. But, confirm your views about Satya sai, ' cause I went to him Twice, 10years back, but he didn't notice me. I am one in the crowd. few selected persons were granted private interview. That's what causes my doubt. Why satya sai is not accessable to all? why to only aselected few?-Prasad
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An American Family Tragedy and Sathya Sai Baba
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07-07-2009, 04:37 AM
It was not ignorant and cruel like Krishna Ram is an avatar of vishnu so what ever he did had a good reason you could say that bird got liberated. In the Ramayan all the demons who got killed by Ram got liberated. Just like Krishna Ram Bliss personified and so merciful he was even prepared to forgive Ravan if he surrenderd.
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