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Old 03-04-2007, 02:16 AM   #1

Ramakanta (das) HKS (PAMHO.NET SysOp) (Zurich - CH)
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Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!


> In this case the status quo was locked in place with signed directives to
> the GBC just prior to Srila Prabhupada's physical departure.


As I already wrote several times, if there is other evidence besides your
points a) and b) that you think prove your point c), then you can present it
later. First you have to admit that your points a) and b) alone do not prove
your point c). You already half admitted it. I just want a clear statement
from you.

So please write, "We admit that our points a) and b) alone do not prove our
point c). It is just our opinion that if points a) and b) are correct then
point c) is proven. But we say that point c) is proven by other evidence."


> You have to prove that the GBC can stop following the orders they were
> given (July 9th etc) and thus change the status quo.


I do not have to prove statements that I did not make.


ys Ramakanta dasa

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Old 03-04-2007, 02:39 AM   #2

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Dear Ramakanta Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!


> In this case the status quo was locked in place with signed directives to
> the GBC just prior to Srila Prabhupada's physical departure.


points a) and b) that you think prove your point c), then you can present it
later. First you have to admit that your points a) and b) alone do not prove
your point c). You already half admitted it. I just want a clear statement
from you.>

If point a and b are correct, and you were unable to disprove them, the c
follows logically within the closed system we are discussing.

Since you are not even claiming:

“that the GBC can stop following the orders they were given (July 9th etc) and
thus change the status quo.”

Point c is simply saying the GBC must carry on following the orders they were
given and thus maintain the status quo. This need to follow the orders of the
guru is axiomatic and hence does not require proof. And you are not even
claiming that counter orders exist. Thus, at least so far as visible evidence
goes, the debate is over.

Eventually I'm confident you will realise you cannot defeat the truth.

Best wishes
Ys
Yadu


----- Original Message ----
From: Ramakanta (das) HKS (PAMHO.NET SysOp) (Zurich - CH)

To: Initiations in ISKCON
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2007 7:16:00 AM
Subject: Ramakanta contradicts himself again.


Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!


> In this case the status quo was locked in place with signed directives to
> the GBC just prior to Srila Prabhupada's physical departure.


As I already wrote several times, if there is other evidence besides your
points a) and b) that you think prove your point c), then you can present it
later. First you have to admit that your points a) and b) alone do not prove
your point c). You already half admitted it. I just want a clear statement
from you.

So please write, "We admit that our points a) and b) alone do not prove our
point c). It is just our opinion that if points a) and b) are correct then
point c) is proven. But we say that point c) is proven by other evidence."


> You have to prove that the GBC can stop following the orders they were
> given (July 9th etc) and thus change the status quo.


I do not have to prove statements that I did not make.


ys Ramakanta dasa

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Old 03-05-2007, 01:13 AM   #3

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Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!


> If point a and b are correct, and you were unable to disprove them, the c
> follows logically within the closed system we are discussing.


Where did you read that?


> Point c is simply saying the GBC must carry on following the orders they
> were given and thus maintain the status quo.


Now you presented a new conclusion. We can discuss is later. First you have
to admit that your points a) and b) alone do not prove that Srila Prabhupada
remains the sole diksa guru for ISKCON.


ys Ramakanta dasa

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