Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

Posted by Yaduraja on Nov 10, 2006:

Dear Ramakanta prabhu,
PAMHO, AGTSP,
You ask:

> Then why did Srila Prabhupada write that he has to come back from Goloka
> Vrindaban to deliver those disciples who are not delivered along with him?

Why on earth are you asking this question when:

1) you accept he can deliver disciples who 'outlive' him, and thus you have
inadvertently accepted the principle that he can deliver disciples even
whilst apparently absent from this planet.
And
2) when you know he taught over and over again that the physical presence of
the guru is not important.
And
3) When we already agree that:

“...the Spiritual Master remains in the material universe until all of His
disciples are transferred to the Spiritual Sky”

Ramakanta prabhuji, have you ever looked up at the sky at night? Well next
time you do you will notice lots and lots of shiny, sparkly specs. These are
stars and planets, and all of them are places on which living entities can
exist according to the Vedas. Even on the Sun globe there are highly
developed civilisations. Obviously it is therefore perfectly possible for a
spiritual master who has come from Goloka Vrindavan to remain in this
universe, but at the same time not necessarily be physically present for all
his disciples who are still on earth.

Even when Srila Prabhupada was on this planet he did not physically meet
many of his disciples, so obviously ‘delivering’ them does not absolutely
require that the disciple has to experience the physical presence of the
guru. Please read all those quotes again if you still think that the
physical presence of the guru is essential for the disciple.

It’s time for you to now leave the 'dark side' Ramakanta prabhu.
Best wishes
Ys
Yadu