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Old 07-19-2003, 10:25 AM   #1

(Bhakta) Jan Mares (NE-BBT Czech)
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Default Do the puranas deny the supremacy of Śri KRSNA (Vishnu)?


Hare Krsna Chris, _/\o_

> My question is: How it possible that the Vedic literature denys the
> position of Lord Krsna (Visnu)?


Vedic literature is very variant in order to serve all people (situated in
three gunas). They have different desires and therefore specific sastras
support their tendencies while encouraging them to upgrade to higher gunas,
to gradually reach Visnu-bhakti. This is also done in BG 9.23.

> I`ve heard that some texts was changed and Lord Caitanya accepted only
> Bhagavatam, Gita, Vedanta - sutra & Brahma - samhita (govindam adi
> purusam....). Is it true ?


"Vyasadeva collected whatever Vedic conclusions were in the four Vedas and
108 Upanisads and placed them in the aphorisms of the Vedanta-sutra.

"In the Vedanta-sutra, the purport of all Vedic knowledge is explained, and
in Srimad-Bhagavatam the same purport has been explained in eighteen
thousand verses.

"Therefore it is to be concluded that the Brahma-sutra is explained vividly
in Srimad-Bhagavatam. Also, what is explained in the verses of
Srimad-Bh€gavatam has the same purport as what is explained in the
Upanisads." (CC Madhya 25.98-100)

Plus Sri Caitanya Himself discovered Brahma-samhita. So these are our
topmost pramanas.

Scholars consider Bhavisya Purana tampered with.

> I ask because I`ve read fragments of Agni Purana and Brahmanda purana and
> I found there that worship of Supreme Lord (Krsna or His incarnation) can
> give spiritual progress and Liberation to worshipers. I didn`t find some
> fragments that deny the supremacy of Lord Visnu.


Yes, see my above answer. But there are some narrations about supremacy of
Siva over Visnu. E.g. Vayu Purana (tamasika Purana) tells a story how at the
beginning of creation Visnu and Brahma argued who of them is supreme. Then
saw a gigantic column of fire and to find its ends Brahma went up and Siva
went down but couldn't reach any end. After that Brahma figured out that
this is actually Siva linga and worshiped Siva in this form. Then Siva
appeared to them and told them that he is satisfied with them, they are
parts of his own body and blessed them with devotion to him.


Hope this helps.

Your servant, bh. Jan

www.veda.harekrsna.cz (Bhakti-yoga Vedic Encyclopedia Vedic Library)

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