Proof #3 that ritvikvada is wrong

02-03-2005, 10:41 PM

(1) "Before Srila Prabhupada appeared, the system was that after the
departure of his guru the disciple becomes the next diksa guru."

This is a historical fact.

(2) During ten years Srila Prabhupada described the system where the
disciple becomes the next diksa guru. So he did not change the system.

This is confirmed in Srila Prabhupada's books and by following quotes:

"One who is now the disciple is the next spiritual master." (SB 2.9.43
Purport)

"Just like a critical student under a professor, he becomes a first-class
professor, similarly, a person who is a very rigid student of bona fide
acarya, he becomes next acarya." (Madhya-lila 20.144-146 -- New York,
December 1, 1966)

Also Srila Prabhupada several times said and wrote that he did not change
anything. For example:

"I am simply serving my spiritual master, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati
Goswami Maharaja and all the acaryas in the disciplic succession. If I have
done anything of credit it is that I have not changed their teachings. I
have not added anything of my own interpretation." (Letter to: Bhima, Krsna
dasa, Sanat Kumara, Nityananda, Samba, Joseph -- Bombay 16 May, 1974)

(3) At the first few initiations Srila Prabhupada did everything himself.
But after some time he introduced the ritvik system by letting another
person perform the fire yajna while Srila Prabhupada was still present at
the initiation ceremoy and chanted on the beads. The system was still that
after the departure of his guru the disciple becomes the next diksa guru.

(4) From 1973 on Srila Prabhupada was no longer present at all initiation
ceremonies. So he extended the ritvik system a little by letting the temple
president chant on the beads and preside the initiation ceremony. The system
was still that after the departure of his guru the disciple becomes the next
diksa guru.

(5) On July 9th, 1977 Srila Prabhupada made one more little change in the
ritvik system, namely that 'henceforward' the temple presidents should send
the recommendation for initiation to one of the representatives instead of
Srila Prabhupada. The system was still that after the departure of his guru
the disciple becomes the next diksa guru.

(6) Srila Prabhupada gave the instruction not to change anything. This
includes not to change the system that after the departure of his guru the
disciple becomes the next diksa guru.

Conclusion: "The ritvik system ended on Srila Prabhupada's departure."

To refute this proof you have to prove that (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) or (6)
is wrong.

ys Ramakanta dasa