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Default defense by one of the disciples of HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaj - 07-18-2004, 08:37 AM

The following is a chat where one of the discples offers defense
against some of my charges.

Rajaram Venkataramani: haribol.
jndas : hare krishna
Rajaram Venkataramani: do you have access to kapyasa koumudi and
brahma vidya abaranam
jndas : no
Rajaram Venkataramani: how do you reconcile literary and factual
errors by acharyas ? the intention is curiosity not offense.
jndas : cite some examples and I can reply
Rajaram Venkataramani: to make sure that you understand my neutrality
let me first quote an error by kanchi maha periyaval. in one of his
published lectures he quotes the verse 11.8 in which the last word
according to him is isvaram referring to lord siva as well.
though "one can stretch" it that way that is not how other scholars
translate. so, without explanation in accordance with the rules of
grammar it may be considered a literary flaw. now as far as srila
prabhupada is concerned, he translates Sveteshvatara Upanishad (4.9)
kesagra verse incompletely leaving out the words bhaaga anantyaaya.
based on this one of his grand disciples concluded that the atomic
has a definite material dimension!!
jndas : he has paraphrased
jndas : there is no fault in paraphrasing a translation to support a
particular point
jndas : when another point is needed to be made, the verse may be
paraphrased in another way
jndas : everyone does this
jndas : verse have multiple meanings and angles, and not all must be
explained each time the verse is cited
Rajaram Venkataramani: hmm. the following is an example of factual
error. in BG krishnadasa is listed as the guru of narottama but in
other works lokanath is.
jndas : vande gurun isha bhakta
jndas : guru is plural
jndas : our parampara is not based on diksha
Rajaram Venkataramani: did narottama meet krishnadasa ? what were
their times ?
jndas : guru does not need to be met
jndas : the nitya siddhas can guide us by their mercy
Rajaram Venkataramani: i cant forget to remember the title i gave
you - "krishna's attorney". ha ha. how do you reconcile with
spiritual judgement where people considered great by Srila Prabhupada
such as Kirtananda fell down.
jndas : prabhupada encouraged his fallen disciples
jndas : but he also said they were fools
jndas : prabhupada instructed all of us to become spiritual masters
jndas : some tried and failed
Rajaram Venkataramani: how do you reconcile with the errors in usage
of english language ?
jndas : the editors fault
jndas : prabhupada's books were full of english mistakes
jndas : you should see his pre america books
jndas : pre-1965
jndas : the english grammar is full of mistakes
jndas : he never claimed to be an english professor
jndas : krishna also fails some exams in gurukula
jndas : that is lila
Rajaram Venkataramani: good. i will post it in achintya. they may
like it.
jndas : according to the scriptures the pure devotee is full of all
mystic oppulences
jndas : and the vedanta sutra says the jivan-mukta is omniscient
jndas : this is the word of the shastra
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