Haribol,

you said:

"Hence I reject all God positioning propaganda by so called commentaries and one sided purports. I mean if we look at it objectively, commentairies are written by a person belonging to one sampradaya. His commentary is bound to be heavily influenced by his sampradaya that stresses on one or other side of the Lord. Though Srila Prabhupada made wonderful commentaries. I will also be delighted by commentaries of a person who has achieved direct vision and divine perception of the Lord!"

I would first like to make the strong apprehension that this sort of statement is simply Vaisnava Aparadha. It is very offensive to claim that a bonafide guru isn't graced by the Supreme with direct perception of Him. By saying "though Srila Prabhupada made wonderful commentaries", it is like saying in belittlement that they are just a collection of subjective and fancy words of propaganda and nothing more. By following it up with the statement "I will also be delighted by commentaries of a person who has achieved direct vision and divine perception of the Lord!", you are knowingly or unknowingly indicating that you think His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada was in fact a mundane person and a mental speculator without actual spiritual realization. Therefore you have commited the greatest offense. I beg you for your own welfare to pray for forgiveness on this horrible act.

As for Arjuna, He is a completely liberated soul, and He is known as the close friend of Sri Krishna. As we are all aware, in order to sing His gloriously divine message to the world, Krishna put Arjuna in such a state of relative ignorance so that His pastime may be enacted nicely and the instruction handed over by the Supreme Guru Sri Krishna. So on account of His relationship with Krishna, Arjuna is to be glorified at all times. However, being a pure devotee of Sri Krishna in this age of Kali is so rare,that He may hold a similar status if not an even greater status than that of the great soul Arjuna.

Also, don't make the mistake of thinking that all we do and realize nowadays is through books and books alone. This is not what the Guruparampara is about at all. The scriptures are a great and necessary tool, but unalloyed devotion is the means, and all of these bonafide gurus have attained that status of pure devotion, be they Srila Prabhupada, Bhakti Promod Puri or Bhaktivinoda Thakur. So there is no question of dry speculation and one sided views on their behalf. Their insight and realization is pure, beyond books and scriptures.

Srila Prabhupada Himself stated that quotation and counterquotation from the scriptures will never reach any ultimate resolution, so it is therefore imperative that we simply accept the word of Sri guru on account of His status as a pure devotee.

So you may reject God positioning all you want, and disregard those "so-called" commentaries and purports altogether, however you are not at the stage of these great and saintly souls, therefore your vision holds no weight.So there is no question who is actually confused, for it certainly isn't the spiritual master. The spritual master is a self-realized soul and His knowledge surpasses the speculative knowledge as He always resides on the spiritual plane. Krishna clearly states in the Gita that you surrender fully to His pure devotee, so submit and listen to Him, take His instructions to heart. Krishna clearly states that He is the Supreme cause of all causes. So where is the need to speculate on who is equally Supreme? Here Krishna is presented in full opulence as the Supreme Lord, so why go on speculating? So just take to Krishna Bhakti and stop this nonsensical debate. Become His devoteee, stop doubting, stop this mental speculation. If one does not take the instructions of Gurudeva to heart and disrespect His commentary the creeper of devotion will never sprout but will simply wither and the heart will remain of stone.

Hare Krishna!

Haribol,

you said:

"Hence I reject all God positioning propaganda by so called commentaries and one sided purports. I mean if we look at it objectively, commentairies are written by a person belonging to one sampradaya. His commentary is bound to be heavily influenced by his sampradaya that stresses on one or other side of the Lord. Though Srila Prabhupada made wonderful commentaries. I will also be delighted by commentaries of a person who has achieved direct vision and divine perception of the Lord!"

I would first like to make the strong apprehension that this sort of statement is simply Vaisnava Aparadha. It is very offensive to claim that a bonafide guru isn't graced by the Supreme with direct perception of Him. By saying "though Srila Prabhupada made wonderful commentaries", it is like saying in belittlement that they are just a collection of subjective and fancy words of propaganda and nothing more. By following it up with the statement "I will also be delighted by commentaries of a person who has achieved direct vision and divine perception of the Lord!", you are knowingly or unknowingly indicating that you think His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada was in fact a mundane person and a mental speculator without actual spiritual realization. Therefore you have commited the greatest offense. I beg you for your own welfare to pray for forgiveness on this horrible act.

As for Arjuna, He is a completely liberated soul, and He is known as the close friend of Sri Krishna. As we are all aware, in order to sing His gloriously divine message to the world, Krishna put Arjuna in such a state of relative ignorance so that His pastime may be enacted nicely and the instruction handed over by the Supreme Guru Sri Krishna. So on account of His relationship with Krishna, Arjuna is to be glorified at all times. However, being a pure devotee of Sri Krishna in this age of Kali is so rare,that He may hold a similar status if not an even greater status than that of the great soul Arjuna.

Also, don't make the mistake of thinking that all we do and realize nowadays is through books and books alone. This is not what the Guruparampara is about at all. The scriptures are a great and necessary tool, but unalloyed devotion is the means, and all of these bonafide gurus have attained that status of pure devotion, be they Srila Prabhupada, Bhakti Promod Puri or Bhaktivinoda Thakur. So there is no question of dry speculation and one sided views on their behalf. Their insight and realization is pure, beyond books and scriptures.

Srila Prabhupada Himself stated that quotation and counterquotation from the scriptures will never reach any ultimate resolution, so it is therefore imperative that we simply accept the word of Sri guru on account of His status as a pure devotee.

So you may reject God positioning all you want, and disregard those "so-called" commentaries and purports altogether, however you are not at the stage of these great and saintly souls, therefore your vision holds no weight.So there is no question who is actually confused, for it certainly isn't the spiritual master. The spritual master is a self-realized soul and His knowledge surpasses the speculative knowledge as He always resides on the spiritual plane. Krishna clearly states in the Gita that you surrender fully to His pure devotee, so submit and listen to Him, take His instructions to heart. Krishna clearly states that He is the Supreme cause of all causes. So where is the need to speculate on who is equally Supreme? Here Krishna is presented in full opulence as the Supreme Lord, so why go on speculating? So just take to Krishna Bhakti and stop this nonsensical debate. Become His devoteee, stop doubting, stop this mental speculation. If one does not take the instructions of Gurudeva to heart and disrespect His commentary the creeper of devotion will never sprout but will simply wither and the heart will remain of stone.

Hare Krishna!

Haribol,

you said:

"Hence I reject all God positioning propaganda by so called commentaries and one sided purports. I mean if we look at it objectively, commentairies are written by a person belonging to one sampradaya. His commentary is bound to be heavily influenced by his sampradaya that stresses on one or other side of the Lord. Though Srila Prabhupada made wonderful commentaries. I will also be delighted by commentaries of a person who has achieved direct vision and divine perception of the Lord!"

I would first like to make the strong apprehension that this sort of statement is simply Vaisnava Aparadha. It is very offensive to claim that a bonafide guru isn't graced by the Supreme with direct perception of Him. By saying "though Srila Prabhupada made wonderful commentaries", it is like saying in belittlement that they are just a collection of subjective and fancy words of propaganda and nothing more. By following it up with the statement "I will also be delighted by commentaries of a person who has achieved direct vision and divine perception of the Lord!", you are knowingly or unknowingly indicating that you think His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada was in fact a mundane person and a mental speculator without actual spiritual realization. Therefore you have commited the greatest offense. I beg you for your own welfare to pray for forgiveness on this horrible act.

As for Arjuna, He is a completely liberated soul, and He is known as the close friend of Sri Krishna. As we are all aware, in order to sing His gloriously divine message to the world, Krishna put Arjuna in such a state of relative ignorance so that His pastime may be enacted nicely and the instruction handed over by the Supreme Guru Sri Krishna. So on account of His relationship with Krishna, Arjuna is to be glorified at all times. However, being a pure devotee of Sri Krishna in this age of Kali is so rare,that He may hold a similar status if not an even greater status than that of the great soul Arjuna.

Also, don't make the mistake of thinking that all we do and realize nowadays is through books and books alone. This is not what the Guruparampara is about at all. The scriptures are a great and necessary tool, but unalloyed devotion is the means, and all of these bonafide gurus have attained that status of pure devotion, be they Srila Prabhupada, Bhakti Promod Puri or Bhaktivinoda Thakur. So there is no question of dry speculation and one sided views on their behalf. Their insight and realization is pure, beyond books and scriptures.

Srila Prabhupada Himself stated that quotation and counterquotation from the scriptures will never reach any ultimate resolution, so it is therefore imperative that we simply accept the word of Sri guru on account of His status as a pure devotee.

So you may reject God positioning all you want, and disregard those "so-called" commentaries and purports altogether, however you are not at the stage of these great and saintly souls, therefore your vision holds no weight.So there is no question who is actually confused, for it certainly isn't the spiritual master. The spritual master is a self-realized soul and His knowledge surpasses the speculative knowledge as He always resides on the spiritual plane. Krishna clearly states in the Gita that you surrender fully to His pure devotee, so submit and listen to Him, take His instructions to heart. Krishna clearly states that He is the Supreme cause of all causes. So where is the need to speculate on who is equally Supreme? Here Krishna is presented in full opulence as the Supreme Lord, so why go on speculating? So just take to Krishna Bhakti and stop this nonsensical debate. Become His devoteee, stop doubting, stop this mental speculation. If one does not take the instructions of Gurudeva to heart and disrespect His commentary the creeper of devotion will never sprout but will simply wither and the heart will remain of stone.

Hare Krishna!

Haribol,

you said:

"Hence I reject all God positioning propaganda by so called commentaries and one sided purports. I mean if we look at it objectively, commentairies are written by a person belonging to one sampradaya. His commentary is bound to be heavily influenced by his sampradaya that stresses on one or other side of the Lord. Though Srila Prabhupada made wonderful commentaries. I will also be delighted by commentaries of a person who has achieved direct vision and divine perception of the Lord!"

I would first like to make the strong apprehension that this sort of statement is simply Vaisnava Aparadha. It is very offensive to claim that a bonafide guru isn't graced by the Supreme with direct perception of Him. By saying "though Srila Prabhupada made wonderful commentaries", it is like saying in belittlement that they are just a collection of subjective and fancy words of propaganda and nothing more. By following it up with the statement "I will also be delighted by commentaries of a person who has achieved direct vision and divine perception of the Lord!", you are knowingly or unknowingly indicating that you think His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada was in fact a mundane person and a mental speculator without actual spiritual realization. Therefore you have commited the greatest offense. I beg you for your own welfare to pray for forgiveness on this horrible act.

As for Arjuna, He is a completely liberated soul, and He is known as the close friend of Sri Krishna. As we are all aware, in order to sing His gloriously divine message to the world, Krishna put Arjuna in such a state of relative ignorance so that His pastime may be enacted nicely and the instruction handed over by the Supreme Guru Sri Krishna. So on account of His relationship with Krishna, Arjuna is to be glorified at all times. However, being a pure devotee of Sri Krishna in this age of Kali is so rare,that He may hold a similar status if not an even greater status than that of the great soul Arjuna.

Also, don't make the mistake of thinking that all we do and realize nowadays is through books and books alone. This is not what the Guruparampara is about at all. The scriptures are a great and necessary tool, but unalloyed devotion is the means, and all of these bonafide gurus have attained that status of pure devotion, be they Srila Prabhupada, Bhakti Promod Puri or Bhaktivinoda Thakur. So there is no question of dry speculation and one sided views on their behalf. Their insight and realization is pure, beyond books and scriptures.

Srila Prabhupada Himself stated that quotation and counterquotation from the scriptures will never reach any ultimate resolution, so it is therefore imperative that we simply accept the word of Sri guru on account of His status as a pure devotee.

So you may reject God positioning all you want, and disregard those "so-called" commentaries and purports altogether, however you are not at the stage of these great and saintly souls, therefore your vision holds no weight.So there is no question who is actually confused, for it certainly isn't the spiritual master. The spritual master is a self-realized soul and His knowledge surpasses the speculative knowledge as He always resides on the spiritual plane. Krishna clearly states in the Gita that you surrender fully to His pure devotee, so submit and listen to Him, take His instructions to heart. Krishna clearly states that He is the Supreme cause of all causes. So where is the need to speculate on who is equally Supreme? Here Krishna is presented in full opulence as the Supreme Lord, so why go on speculating? So just take to Krishna Bhakti and stop this nonsensical debate. Become His devoteee, stop doubting, stop this mental speculation. If one does not take the instructions of Gurudeva to heart and disrespect His commentary the creeper of devotion will never sprout but will simply wither and the heart will remain of stone.

Hare Krishna!

Krishna: Whatever, O Bhishma, thou wilt say unto the enquiring son of Pandu (Yudhishthira), will be regarded on earth to be as authoritative as the declarations of that Vedas. That person who will conduct himself here according to the authority of thy declarations, will obtain hereafter the reward of every meritorious act.

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Vaisampayana said: Hearing these words of Krishna fraught with morality and profit, Santanu’s Bhishma, answered him in the following words:

Bhishma said: O master of all the worlds, O mighty armed one, O Siva, O Narayana, O thou of unfading glory, hearing the words spoken by thee I have been filled with joy. But what words (of instruction), O master of speech, can I say in thy presence, when especially in all the subjects of speech have been dealt with in speech?

Krishna: Whatever, O Bhishma, thou wilt say unto the enquiring son of Pandu (Yudhishthira), will be regarded on earth to be as authoritative as the declarations of that Vedas. That person who will conduct himself here according to the authority of thy declarations, will obtain hereafter the reward of every meritorious act.

...............

Vaisampayana said: Hearing these words of Krishna fraught with morality and profit, Santanu’s Bhishma, answered him in the following words:

Bhishma said: O master of all the worlds, O mighty armed one, O Siva, O Narayana, O thou of unfading glory, hearing the words spoken by thee I have been filled with joy. But what words (of instruction), O master of speech, can I say in thy presence, when especially in all the subjects of speech have been dealt with in speech?

Krishna: Whatever, O Bhishma, thou wilt say unto the enquiring son of Pandu (Yudhishthira), will be regarded on earth to be as authoritative as the declarations of that Vedas. That person who will conduct himself here according to the authority of thy declarations, will obtain hereafter the reward of every meritorious act.

...............

Vaisampayana said: Hearing these words of Krishna fraught with morality and profit, Santanu’s Bhishma, answered him in the following words:

Bhishma said: O master of all the worlds, O mighty armed one, O Siva, O Narayana, O thou of unfading glory, hearing the words spoken by thee I have been filled with joy. But what words (of instruction), O master of speech, can I say in thy presence, when especially in all the subjects of speech have been dealt with in speech?

Krishna: Whatever, O Bhishma, thou wilt say unto the enquiring son of Pandu (Yudhishthira), will be regarded on earth to be as authoritative as the declarations of that Vedas. That person who will conduct himself here according to the authority of thy declarations, will obtain hereafter the reward of every meritorious act.

...............

Vaisampayana said: Hearing these words of Krishna fraught with morality and profit, Santanu’s Bhishma, answered him in the following words:

Bhishma said: O master of all the worlds, O mighty armed one, O Siva, O Narayana, O thou of unfading glory, hearing the words spoken by thee I have been filled with joy. But what words (of instruction), O master of speech, can I say in thy presence, when especially in all the subjects of speech have been dealt with in speech?

Aum ShreeVishnave Namah

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N.B. The views expressed here, are personal views and the reader is advised not to BLINDLY accept and\or follow them. One should rather, depend on KRSN directly or indirectly, as in a form of a qualified spiritual master.
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I'd suggest the questioner that rather than falling into such confusions of Gross-name-substances, try to concentrate on the meaning that the name suggests.

Out of various meanings of Krsn, one meaning could be...

'The One Who gives happiness to everyone'

And Shiv means 'Kalyaan' or the 'Unconditional, Causeless and Eternal mercy'.

So, thus the difference is hardly ego-based, i.e. your interpretaion. There is no differece in Actuality.

Now if you look through these two (rather similar) attributes or natures, you won't be illusioned anymore. At least I (because of His uncondtional krupa), am not illusioned into such pitfalls. Its all ONE. Try to concentrate on the meaning of the name, they'd lead you to ONENESS.

You may refer to 'Vishnu sashranam' by Swami Sri Chinmayanandji. This might help you. It has definitely helped me a lot.

Hari Aum Tat Sat

Aum ShreeVishnave Namah

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N.B. The views expressed here, are personal views and the reader is advised not to BLINDLY accept and\or follow them. One should rather, depend on KRSN directly or indirectly, as in a form of a qualified spiritual master.
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I'd suggest the questioner that rather than falling into such confusions of Gross-name-substances, try to concentrate on the meaning that the name suggests.

Out of various meanings of Krsn, one meaning could be...

'The One Who gives happiness to everyone'

And Shiv means 'Kalyaan' or the 'Unconditional, Causeless and Eternal mercy'.

So, thus the difference is hardly ego-based, i.e. your interpretaion. There is no differece in Actuality.

Now if you look through these two (rather similar) attributes or natures, you won't be illusioned anymore. At least I (because of His uncondtional krupa), am not illusioned into such pitfalls. Its all ONE. Try to concentrate on the meaning of the name, they'd lead you to ONENESS.

You may refer to 'Vishnu sashranam' by Swami Sri Chinmayanandji. This might help you. It has definitely helped me a lot.

Hari Aum Tat Sat

Aum ShreeVishnave Namah

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N.B. The views expressed here, are personal views and the reader is advised not to BLINDLY accept and\or follow them. One should rather, depend on KRSN directly or indirectly, as in a form of a qualified spiritual master.
================================================== ==========

I'd suggest the questioner that rather than falling into such confusions of Gross-name-substances, try to concentrate on the meaning that the name suggests.

Out of various meanings of Krsn, one meaning could be...

'The One Who gives happiness to everyone'

And Shiv means 'Kalyaan' or the 'Unconditional, Causeless and Eternal mercy'.

So, thus the difference is hardly ego-based, i.e. your interpretaion. There is no differece in Actuality.

Now if you look through these two (rather similar) attributes or natures, you won't be illusioned anymore. At least I (because of His uncondtional krupa), am not illusioned into such pitfalls. Its all ONE. Try to concentrate on the meaning of the name, they'd lead you to ONENESS.

You may refer to 'Vishnu sashranam' by Swami Sri Chinmayanandji. This might help you. It has definitely helped me a lot.

Hari Aum Tat Sat

Aum ShreeVishnave Namah

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N.B. The views expressed here, are personal views and the reader is advised not to BLINDLY accept and\or follow them. One should rather, depend on KRSN directly or indirectly, as in a form of a qualified spiritual master.
================================================== ==========

I'd suggest the questioner that rather than falling into such confusions of Gross-name-substances, try to concentrate on the meaning that the name suggests.

Out of various meanings of Krsn, one meaning could be...

'The One Who gives happiness to everyone'

And Shiv means 'Kalyaan' or the 'Unconditional, Causeless and Eternal mercy'.

So, thus the difference is hardly ego-based, i.e. your interpretaion. There is no differece in Actuality.

Now if you look through these two (rather similar) attributes or natures, you won't be illusioned anymore. At least I (because of His uncondtional krupa), am not illusioned into such pitfalls. Its all ONE. Try to concentrate on the meaning of the name, they'd lead you to ONENESS.

You may refer to 'Vishnu sashranam' by Swami Sri Chinmayanandji. This might help you. It has definitely helped me a lot.

Hari Aum Tat Sat

Dear Nrsinghadev ji,

Hare Krishna!

As you have stated that I don't have any realization and that my words don't have any weight whatsoever, can I have the privilege of knowing your level of achievement?? Should I accept the weightage of your words then?? How!? Just because you favour one particular school of thought in a given fashion and want to defend it?? You hardly know me to make such a claim! Simply having devotion is no proof of a particular level of spiritual advancement! Just like being called Nrsinghadev doesn't make you one! Lol!

We all know the greatness of shri Arjuna without your trumpeting it. You probably didn't meet him either! I'll explain what I meant by Direct Perception - I suppose you have read the story of Goswami Tulsidas. Nobody would doubt his "commentaries" or 'purports" if he wrote them. He wrote the Ramcharitmanas! And people commented on it later. It was well aware that he had the 'darshan' of Lord Ramachandra. That is direct God realization. That is divine perception. A state where the Lord appears before a disciple. Mira Bai attained that state too. Unless she did that, she was still a great devotee. Greater than any of us, but still not a fully liberated soul before her direct perception of the Lord shri Krishna. Then she had no reason to left to stay here. Many highly elevated yogis did that too.
Many liberated souls do come to carry their saving work here. Was Srila Prabhupada one such soul is beyond my competency to comment upon! I recognize his being a person in mode of pure devotion. We highly respect him and pray to him with ardent devotion too. He did help save a lot of souls from the clutches of plain material existence by introducing KC into their lives.

I read a lot of books and have immense devotion in Krishna and Srila Prabhupada, but still that may not mean that Prabhupada materializes in front of me or I have reached a state where I can interact with him and directly get my answers from his mouth whenever I want.
Now my disciples can propagate my name far and wide and it is quite possible that a few people will believe me to be a realized soul too out of their sheer devotional respect and belief! Where is the meter to measure this realization Shri Nrsinghadev ji? I'll be obliged if you can enlighten me on this issue for my own spiritual progress.
What was the difference when Arjuna with all his devotion and knowledge wasn't fully convinced, but only upon direct divine perception.
You expressed your distaste in the slighting of the propaganda of God positioning. But you failed to comment on the points I wrote. Why was it necessary for Krishna to give divine vision to Arjuna?? Why was it necessary for him to tell him to practice yogic disciplines and follow the technique of Kriya yoga by gazing on the third eye meditating on him? He could have told him - all you have to do is take a pair of khartals and sing and dance. Why bother with yoga? But now you propagate that that was a different yuga. Yes that was Vedic culture. But in Kaliyuga all we can do is shravan, kirtana and manan!
So do you see the difference between what kind of sadhnas that were prevailant in Vedic period and what are prevailant now??? Let me hear your 'puports'!
Yes there is a difference! And what you practice now is not purely Vedic.
You can argue that the ultimate aim is to surrender to Krishna and that's what we are doing and all other activities are zero! Fine! No problem with that!
Please remember, I haven't come here to belittle anyone!
Please accept the fact that it will be the last thing for me to do is to belittle his divine grace Srila Prabhupada or the Gurus or the movement. It is not my on agenda. I won't earn any spiritual wealth from it!
It will be my good luck to sing the praises of the Lord and his devotees including yourself!
But sorry I can't handle fanatism. It is the duty of every bonafide sampradaya or devotee to praise his lineage of saints, devotees. But to think every other person is false is wrong. Where is the aparadha? That I don't accept the belitteling of Lord Shiva? If this is the aparadha, then I'll be proud to committ it again and again! It wil be an aparadha to listen to anyone who preaches Lord Shiva as a mere "Demi-God"! I will not listen to the belitteling of either Lord Shiva or Lord Sri Krsna!

Nrsinghadev ji! If you have that direct perception I refered to, I'm humbly ready to accept your guidance today itself! If any of the 'Gurus' that you know can show me that, I'll also come under their refuge! Arjuna played the role of an ignorant or not is a secondary issue. Something that you can speculate on as much as you like.

We also know the great work that Srila Prabhupada did to propagate the Krishna Consciousness movement in the west. He was the chosen one. As prophesized by Lord Sri Chaitanya.
But yes I reject all God position .!
We are definitely not standing on the ground to change some particular God's position or determine it in a particular fashion. Vedic culture respects the Gods. Krishna showed it by his own example. He earneslty took initiation into Shaiv Pashupata Yoga from Upmanyu and became the greatest Shaiva. You can say he played a role. Okay! There must be a reason for him to show this example then! The Lord doesn't do anything for no reason! Isn't it? Of course Krishna says in the BG to leave everthing and surrender unto him! So do it. But you will have to show me where he claims Lord Shiva to be a mere "Demi-God". If Your conclusion of his being a demi-God not a read only theory, then what? Who told you that and where was he told from?? From another book?

As far as my earning vaishnava aparadha is concerned, then those who belittle Lord Shiva earn it a hundred times more. And I've heard it from a number of disciples whether it is India or abroad. We try to throw 'fear factor' by using the 'aparadha', 'offense', horrible act etc. stuff on anything that doesn't fall straight in our line of belief! It may or may not be a real aparadha. I'm aware of the list of aparadhas mentioned by Sri Jeev Goswami. He did mention aparadha of belittling a bona-fide Guru, but there can be bona-fide Gurus who may not be of a Vaishnva lineage too! Sri Gorakhnath was a devotee of Lord Shiva. Would you call him a bona-fide Guru? Please answer! Sri Lahiri Mahasaya, a realized yogi was a bona-fide Guru who clearly stated his experiences of God communion and stages in divine realization and visions. So did Sri Yogananda. Would you accept him as a bona-fide Guru too? Why not?
As we consider Lord Shiva the greatest Vaishnava, I see no reason why he should be belittled by ignorant people claiming to argue on books. I see no reason why you can't celebrate Shivaratri at the Krisna temple when you can celebrate the anniversary of Srila Prabhupada there!! A few years back a lady devotee in the Spain temple wrote to the temple authorities about the dissatisfaction on celebrating Shivratri at the temple writing why would you celebrate some demi-God's festival!

Dear devotee, there was the vedic period when some rishis would meditate for one year and then write down one shloka as the essence of their whole year's experience in cosmic consciouseness. This shloka was so powerful that if you expand it, it would be a whole book of commentary on its conclusion and explanation. And now there are people who are writing purports deciding which God to put where!

And don't worry, if my heart was of stone and disinterested spiritually, I wouldn't even bother to look into this site! As you quoted Sri Krsna saying to surrender to his pure devotee, would that mean we can also surrender to Lord Shiva? Why not? He is more than a pure devotee! He is referred to by Lord Brahma as the Supreme Lord in Bhagwatam! There is nothing wrong with it either! If you can surrender yourself to Sri Krsna, it is great!
I haven't come here to speculate either.
I came here to defend the belittling of Lord Shiva.
I'm a Krishna devotee anyway! I come from a Vaisnava family where Rama and Krishna are the principle deities. But I'm also well aware of the Shaiv siddhanta, the importance of Vedic spiritual sadhnas of Kriya kundalini yoga. Yogis are also advanced devotees full of bhakti and not materialists as I've heard in some of the discussions. Sometimes I wonder, why we in our sampradaya defend everyword of ours but relate very loosely and disrespectfully t o other sampradayas. Even the advaitas have attained God realization!

I wrote my thoughts. You have the liberty of not accepting it! I'm not preaching.
But please do accept my humble apologies if what I have written is not what you wanted to hear! I cannot be annoyed because your cause is noble and all you are trying to do is to praise the Lord in your way! Which is commendable!

I bow before Srila Prabhupada and Sri Radhe-Krishna!
I praise all the devotees of Sri Krishna and Shiva!

I detest all the so called devotees who though praise Krishna or Shiva but belittle the other propagating him to be inferior and small. Who go around distributing free blasphemies.

Hare Krishna
Om Namah Shivay

Dear Nrsinghadev ji,

Hare Krishna!

As you have stated that I don't have any realization and that my words don't have any weight whatsoever, can I have the privilege of knowing your level of achievement?? Should I accept the weightage of your words then?? How!? Just because you favour one particular school of thought in a given fashion and want to defend it?? You hardly know me to make such a claim! Simply having devotion is no proof of a particular level of spiritual advancement! Just like being called Nrsinghadev doesn't make you one! Lol!

We all know the greatness of shri Arjuna without your trumpeting it. You probably didn't meet him either! I'll explain what I meant by Direct Perception - I suppose you have read the story of Goswami Tulsidas. Nobody would doubt his "commentaries" or 'purports" if he wrote them. He wrote the Ramcharitmanas! And people commented on it later. It was well aware that he had the 'darshan' of Lord Ramachandra. That is direct God realization. That is divine perception. A state where the Lord appears before a disciple. Mira Bai attained that state too. Unless she did that, she was still a great devotee. Greater than any of us, but still not a fully liberated soul before her direct perception of the Lord shri Krishna. Then she had no reason to left to stay here. Many highly elevated yogis did that too.
Many liberated souls do come to carry their saving work here. Was Srila Prabhupada one such soul is beyond my competency to comment upon! I recognize his being a person in mode of pure devotion. We highly respect him and pray to him with ardent devotion too. He did help save a lot of souls from the clutches of plain material existence by introducing KC into their lives.

I read a lot of books and have immense devotion in Krishna and Srila Prabhupada, but still that may not mean that Prabhupada materializes in front of me or I have reached a state where I can interact with him and directly get my answers from his mouth whenever I want.
Now my disciples can propagate my name far and wide and it is quite possible that a few people will believe me to be a realized soul too out of their sheer devotional respect and belief! Where is the meter to measure this realization Shri Nrsinghadev ji? I'll be obliged if you can enlighten me on this issue for my own spiritual progress.
What was the difference when Arjuna with all his devotion and knowledge wasn't fully convinced, but only upon direct divine perception.
You expressed your distaste in the slighting of the propaganda of God positioning. But you failed to comment on the points I wrote. Why was it necessary for Krishna to give divine vision to Arjuna?? Why was it necessary for him to tell him to practice yogic disciplines and follow the technique of Kriya yoga by gazing on the third eye meditating on him? He could have told him - all you have to do is take a pair of khartals and sing and dance. Why bother with yoga? But now you propagate that that was a different yuga. Yes that was Vedic culture. But in Kaliyuga all we can do is shravan, kirtana and manan!
So do you see the difference between what kind of sadhnas that were prevailant in Vedic period and what are prevailant now??? Let me hear your 'puports'!
Yes there is a difference! And what you practice now is not purely Vedic.
You can argue that the ultimate aim is to surrender to Krishna and that's what we are doing and all other activities are zero! Fine! No problem with that!
Please remember, I haven't come here to belittle anyone!
Please accept the fact that it will be the last thing for me to do is to belittle his divine grace Srila Prabhupada or the Gurus or the movement. It is not my on agenda. I won't earn any spiritual wealth from it!
It will be my good luck to sing the praises of the Lord and his devotees including yourself!
But sorry I can't handle fanatism. It is the duty of every bonafide sampradaya or devotee to praise his lineage of saints, devotees. But to think every other person is false is wrong. Where is the aparadha? That I don't accept the belitteling of Lord Shiva? If this is the aparadha, then I'll be proud to committ it again and again! It wil be an aparadha to listen to anyone who preaches Lord Shiva as a mere "Demi-God"! I will not listen to the belitteling of either Lord Shiva or Lord Sri Krsna!

Nrsinghadev ji! If you have that direct perception I refered to, I'm humbly ready to accept your guidance today itself! If any of the 'Gurus' that you know can show me that, I'll also come under their refuge! Arjuna played the role of an ignorant or not is a secondary issue. Something that you can speculate on as much as you like.

We also know the great work that Srila Prabhupada did to propagate the Krishna Consciousness movement in the west. He was the chosen one. As prophesized by Lord Sri Chaitanya.
But yes I reject all God position .!
We are definitely not standing on the ground to change some particular God's position or determine it in a particular fashion. Vedic culture respects the Gods. Krishna showed it by his own example. He earneslty took initiation into Shaiv Pashupata Yoga from Upmanyu and became the greatest Shaiva. You can say he played a role. Okay! There must be a reason for him to show this example then! The Lord doesn't do anything for no reason! Isn't it? Of course Krishna says in the BG to leave everthing and surrender unto him! So do it. But you will have to show me where he claims Lord Shiva to be a mere "Demi-God". If Your conclusion of his being a demi-God not a read only theory, then what? Who told you that and where was he told from?? From another book?

As far as my earning vaishnava aparadha is concerned, then those who belittle Lord Shiva earn it a hundred times more. And I've heard it from a number of disciples whether it is India or abroad. We try to throw 'fear factor' by using the 'aparadha', 'offense', horrible act etc. stuff on anything that doesn't fall straight in our line of belief! It may or may not be a real aparadha. I'm aware of the list of aparadhas mentioned by Sri Jeev Goswami. He did mention aparadha of belittling a bona-fide Guru, but there can be bona-fide Gurus who may not be of a Vaishnva lineage too! Sri Gorakhnath was a devotee of Lord Shiva. Would you call him a bona-fide Guru? Please answer! Sri Lahiri Mahasaya, a realized yogi was a bona-fide Guru who clearly stated his experiences of God communion and stages in divine realization and visions. So did Sri Yogananda. Would you accept him as a bona-fide Guru too? Why not?
As we consider Lord Shiva the greatest Vaishnava, I see no reason why he should be belittled by ignorant people claiming to argue on books. I see no reason why you can't celebrate Shivaratri at the Krisna temple when you can celebrate the anniversary of Srila Prabhupada there!! A few years back a lady devotee in the Spain temple wrote to the temple authorities about the dissatisfaction on celebrating Shivratri at the temple writing why would you celebrate some demi-God's festival!

Dear devotee, there was the vedic period when some rishis would meditate for one year and then write down one shloka as the essence of their whole year's experience in cosmic consciouseness. This shloka was so powerful that if you expand it, it would be a whole book of commentary on its conclusion and explanation. And now there are people who are writing purports deciding which God to put where!

And don't worry, if my heart was of stone and disinterested spiritually, I wouldn't even bother to look into this site! As you quoted Sri Krsna saying to surrender to his pure devotee, would that mean we can also surrender to Lord Shiva? Why not? He is more than a pure devotee! He is referred to by Lord Brahma as the Supreme Lord in Bhagwatam! There is nothing wrong with it either! If you can surrender yourself to Sri Krsna, it is great!
I haven't come here to speculate either.
I came here to defend the belittling of Lord Shiva.
I'm a Krishna devotee anyway! I come from a Vaisnava family where Rama and Krishna are the principle deities. But I'm also well aware of the Shaiv siddhanta, the importance of Vedic spiritual sadhnas of Kriya kundalini yoga. Yogis are also advanced devotees full of bhakti and not materialists as I've heard in some of the discussions. Sometimes I wonder, why we in our sampradaya defend everyword of ours but relate very loosely and disrespectfully t o other sampradayas. Even the advaitas have attained God realization!

I wrote my thoughts. You have the liberty of not accepting it! I'm not preaching.
But please do accept my humble apologies if what I have written is not what you wanted to hear! I cannot be annoyed because your cause is noble and all you are trying to do is to praise the Lord in your way! Which is commendable!

I bow before Srila Prabhupada and Sri Radhe-Krishna!
I praise all the devotees of Sri Krishna and Shiva!

I detest all the so called devotees who though praise Krishna or Shiva but belittle the other propagating him to be inferior and small. Who go around distributing free blasphemies.

Hare Krishna
Om Namah Shivay

Dear Nrsinghadev ji,

Hare Krishna!

As you have stated that I don't have any realization and that my words don't have any weight whatsoever, can I have the privilege of knowing your level of achievement?? Should I accept the weightage of your words then?? How!? Just because you favour one particular school of thought in a given fashion and want to defend it?? You hardly know me to make such a claim! Simply having devotion is no proof of a particular level of spiritual advancement! Just like being called Nrsinghadev doesn't make you one! Lol!

We all know the greatness of shri Arjuna without your trumpeting it. You probably didn't meet him either! I'll explain what I meant by Direct Perception - I suppose you have read the story of Goswami Tulsidas. Nobody would doubt his "commentaries" or 'purports" if he wrote them. He wrote the Ramcharitmanas! And people commented on it later. It was well aware that he had the 'darshan' of Lord Ramachandra. That is direct God realization. That is divine perception. A state where the Lord appears before a disciple. Mira Bai attained that state too. Unless she did that, she was still a great devotee. Greater than any of us, but still not a fully liberated soul before her direct perception of the Lord shri Krishna. Then she had no reason to left to stay here. Many highly elevated yogis did that too.
Many liberated souls do come to carry their saving work here. Was Srila Prabhupada one such soul is beyond my competency to comment upon! I recognize his being a person in mode of pure devotion. We highly respect him and pray to him with ardent devotion too. He did help save a lot of souls from the clutches of plain material existence by introducing KC into their lives.

I read a lot of books and have immense devotion in Krishna and Srila Prabhupada, but still that may not mean that Prabhupada materializes in front of me or I have reached a state where I can interact with him and directly get my answers from his mouth whenever I want.
Now my disciples can propagate my name far and wide and it is quite possible that a few people will believe me to be a realized soul too out of their sheer devotional respect and belief! Where is the meter to measure this realization Shri Nrsinghadev ji? I'll be obliged if you can enlighten me on this issue for my own spiritual progress.
What was the difference when Arjuna with all his devotion and knowledge wasn't fully convinced, but only upon direct divine perception.
You expressed your distaste in the slighting of the propaganda of God positioning. But you failed to comment on the points I wrote. Why was it necessary for Krishna to give divine vision to Arjuna?? Why was it necessary for him to tell him to practice yogic disciplines and follow the technique of Kriya yoga by gazing on the third eye meditating on him? He could have told him - all you have to do is take a pair of khartals and sing and dance. Why bother with yoga? But now you propagate that that was a different yuga. Yes that was Vedic culture. But in Kaliyuga all we can do is shravan, kirtana and manan!
So do you see the difference between what kind of sadhnas that were prevailant in Vedic period and what are prevailant now??? Let me hear your 'puports'!
Yes there is a difference! And what you practice now is not purely Vedic.
You can argue that the ultimate aim is to surrender to Krishna and that's what we are doing and all other activities are zero! Fine! No problem with that!
Please remember, I haven't come here to belittle anyone!
Please accept the fact that it will be the last thing for me to do is to belittle his divine grace Srila Prabhupada or the Gurus or the movement. It is not my on agenda. I won't earn any spiritual wealth from it!
It will be my good luck to sing the praises of the Lord and his devotees including yourself!
But sorry I can't handle fanatism. It is the duty of every bonafide sampradaya or devotee to praise his lineage of saints, devotees. But to think every other person is false is wrong. Where is the aparadha? That I don't accept the belitteling of Lord Shiva? If this is the aparadha, then I'll be proud to committ it again and again! It wil be an aparadha to listen to anyone who preaches Lord Shiva as a mere "Demi-God"! I will not listen to the belitteling of either Lord Shiva or Lord Sri Krsna!

Nrsinghadev ji! If you have that direct perception I refered to, I'm humbly ready to accept your guidance today itself! If any of the 'Gurus' that you know can show me that, I'll also come under their refuge! Arjuna played the role of an ignorant or not is a secondary issue. Something that you can speculate on as much as you like.

We also know the great work that Srila Prabhupada did to propagate the Krishna Consciousness movement in the west. He was the chosen one. As prophesized by Lord Sri Chaitanya.
But yes I reject all God position .!
We are definitely not standing on the ground to change some particular God's position or determine it in a particular fashion. Vedic culture respects the Gods. Krishna showed it by his own example. He earneslty took initiation into Shaiv Pashupata Yoga from Upmanyu and became the greatest Shaiva. You can say he played a role. Okay! There must be a reason for him to show this example then! The Lord doesn't do anything for no reason! Isn't it? Of course Krishna says in the BG to leave everthing and surrender unto him! So do it. But you will have to show me where he claims Lord Shiva to be a mere "Demi-God". If Your conclusion of his being a demi-God not a read only theory, then what? Who told you that and where was he told from?? From another book?

As far as my earning vaishnava aparadha is concerned, then those who belittle Lord Shiva earn it a hundred times more. And I've heard it from a number of disciples whether it is India or abroad. We try to throw 'fear factor' by using the 'aparadha', 'offense', horrible act etc. stuff on anything that doesn't fall straight in our line of belief! It may or may not be a real aparadha. I'm aware of the list of aparadhas mentioned by Sri Jeev Goswami. He did mention aparadha of belittling a bona-fide Guru, but there can be bona-fide Gurus who may not be of a Vaishnva lineage too! Sri Gorakhnath was a devotee of Lord Shiva. Would you call him a bona-fide Guru? Please answer! Sri Lahiri Mahasaya, a realized yogi was a bona-fide Guru who clearly stated his experiences of God communion and stages in divine realization and visions. So did Sri Yogananda. Would you accept him as a bona-fide Guru too? Why not?
As we consider Lord Shiva the greatest Vaishnava, I see no reason why he should be belittled by ignorant people claiming to argue on books. I see no reason why you can't celebrate Shivaratri at the Krisna temple when you can celebrate the anniversary of Srila Prabhupada there!! A few years back a lady devotee in the Spain temple wrote to the temple authorities about the dissatisfaction on celebrating Shivratri at the temple writing why would you celebrate some demi-God's festival!

Dear devotee, there was the vedic period when some rishis would meditate for one year and then write down one shloka as the essence of their whole year's experience in cosmic consciouseness. This shloka was so powerful that if you expand it, it would be a whole book of commentary on its conclusion and explanation. And now there are people who are writing purports deciding which God to put where!

And don't worry, if my heart was of stone and disinterested spiritually, I wouldn't even bother to look into this site! As you quoted Sri Krsna saying to surrender to his pure devotee, would that mean we can also surrender to Lord Shiva? Why not? He is more than a pure devotee! He is referred to by Lord Brahma as the Supreme Lord in Bhagwatam! There is nothing wrong with it either! If you can surrender yourself to Sri Krsna, it is great!
I haven't come here to speculate either.
I came here to defend the belittling of Lord Shiva.
I'm a Krishna devotee anyway! I come from a Vaisnava family where Rama and Krishna are the principle deities. But I'm also well aware of the Shaiv siddhanta, the importance of Vedic spiritual sadhnas of Kriya kundalini yoga. Yogis are also advanced devotees full of bhakti and not materialists as I've heard in some of the discussions. Sometimes I wonder, why we in our sampradaya defend everyword of ours but relate very loosely and disrespectfully t o other sampradayas. Even the advaitas have attained God realization!

I wrote my thoughts. You have the liberty of not accepting it! I'm not preaching.
But please do accept my humble apologies if what I have written is not what you wanted to hear! I cannot be annoyed because your cause is noble and all you are trying to do is to praise the Lord in your way! Which is commendable!

I bow before Srila Prabhupada and Sri Radhe-Krishna!
I praise all the devotees of Sri Krishna and Shiva!

I detest all the so called devotees who though praise Krishna or Shiva but belittle the other propagating him to be inferior and small. Who go around distributing free blasphemies.

Hare Krishna
Om Namah Shivay

Dear Nrsinghadev ji,

Hare Krishna!

As you have stated that I don't have any realization and that my words don't have any weight whatsoever, can I have the privilege of knowing your level of achievement?? Should I accept the weightage of your words then?? How!? Just because you favour one particular school of thought in a given fashion and want to defend it?? You hardly know me to make such a claim! Simply having devotion is no proof of a particular level of spiritual advancement! Just like being called Nrsinghadev doesn't make you one! Lol!

We all know the greatness of shri Arjuna without your trumpeting it. You probably didn't meet him either! I'll explain what I meant by Direct Perception - I suppose you have read the story of Goswami Tulsidas. Nobody would doubt his "commentaries" or 'purports" if he wrote them. He wrote the Ramcharitmanas! And people commented on it later. It was well aware that he had the 'darshan' of Lord Ramachandra. That is direct God realization. That is divine perception. A state where the Lord appears before a disciple. Mira Bai attained that state too. Unless she did that, she was still a great devotee. Greater than any of us, but still not a fully liberated soul before her direct perception of the Lord shri Krishna. Then she had no reason to left to stay here. Many highly elevated yogis did that too.
Many liberated souls do come to carry their saving work here. Was Srila Prabhupada one such soul is beyond my competency to comment upon! I recognize his being a person in mode of pure devotion. We highly respect him and pray to him with ardent devotion too. He did help save a lot of souls from the clutches of plain material existence by introducing KC into their lives.

I read a lot of books and have immense devotion in Krishna and Srila Prabhupada, but still that may not mean that Prabhupada materializes in front of me or I have reached a state where I can interact with him and directly get my answers from his mouth whenever I want.
Now my disciples can propagate my name far and wide and it is quite possible that a few people will believe me to be a realized soul too out of their sheer devotional respect and belief! Where is the meter to measure this realization Shri Nrsinghadev ji? I'll be obliged if you can enlighten me on this issue for my own spiritual progress.
What was the difference when Arjuna with all his devotion and knowledge wasn't fully convinced, but only upon direct divine perception.
You expressed your distaste in the slighting of the propaganda of God positioning. But you failed to comment on the points I wrote. Why was it necessary for Krishna to give divine vision to Arjuna?? Why was it necessary for him to tell him to practice yogic disciplines and follow the technique of Kriya yoga by gazing on the third eye meditating on him? He could have told him - all you have to do is take a pair of khartals and sing and dance. Why bother with yoga? But now you propagate that that was a different yuga. Yes that was Vedic culture. But in Kaliyuga all we can do is shravan, kirtana and manan!
So do you see the difference between what kind of sadhnas that were prevailant in Vedic period and what are prevailant now??? Let me hear your 'puports'!
Yes there is a difference! And what you practice now is not purely Vedic.
You can argue that the ultimate aim is to surrender to Krishna and that's what we are doing and all other activities are zero! Fine! No problem with that!
Please remember, I haven't come here to belittle anyone!
Please accept the fact that it will be the last thing for me to do is to belittle his divine grace Srila Prabhupada or the Gurus or the movement. It is not my on agenda. I won't earn any spiritual wealth from it!
It will be my good luck to sing the praises of the Lord and his devotees including yourself!
But sorry I can't handle fanatism. It is the duty of every bonafide sampradaya or devotee to praise his lineage of saints, devotees. But to think every other person is false is wrong. Where is the aparadha? That I don't accept the belitteling of Lord Shiva? If this is the aparadha, then I'll be proud to committ it again and again! It wil be an aparadha to listen to anyone who preaches Lord Shiva as a mere "Demi-God"! I will not listen to the belitteling of either Lord Shiva or Lord Sri Krsna!

Nrsinghadev ji! If you have that direct perception I refered to, I'm humbly ready to accept your guidance today itself! If any of the 'Gurus' that you know can show me that, I'll also come under their refuge! Arjuna played the role of an ignorant or not is a secondary issue. Something that you can speculate on as much as you like.

We also know the great work that Srila Prabhupada did to propagate the Krishna Consciousness movement in the west. He was the chosen one. As prophesized by Lord Sri Chaitanya.
But yes I reject all God position .!
We are definitely not standing on the ground to change some particular God's position or determine it in a particular fashion. Vedic culture respects the Gods. Krishna showed it by his own example. He earneslty took initiation into Shaiv Pashupata Yoga from Upmanyu and became the greatest Shaiva. You can say he played a role. Okay! There must be a reason for him to show this example then! The Lord doesn't do anything for no reason! Isn't it? Of course Krishna says in the BG to leave everthing and surrender unto him! So do it. But you will have to show me where he claims Lord Shiva to be a mere "Demi-God". If Your conclusion of his being a demi-God not a read only theory, then what? Who told you that and where was he told from?? From another book?

As far as my earning vaishnava aparadha is concerned, then those who belittle Lord Shiva earn it a hundred times more. And I've heard it from a number of disciples whether it is India or abroad. We try to throw 'fear factor' by using the 'aparadha', 'offense', horrible act etc. stuff on anything that doesn't fall straight in our line of belief! It may or may not be a real aparadha. I'm aware of the list of aparadhas mentioned by Sri Jeev Goswami. He did mention aparadha of belittling a bona-fide Guru, but there can be bona-fide Gurus who may not be of a Vaishnva lineage too! Sri Gorakhnath was a devotee of Lord Shiva. Would you call him a bona-fide Guru? Please answer! Sri Lahiri Mahasaya, a realized yogi was a bona-fide Guru who clearly stated his experiences of God communion and stages in divine realization and visions. So did Sri Yogananda. Would you accept him as a bona-fide Guru too? Why not?
As we consider Lord Shiva the greatest Vaishnava, I see no reason why he should be belittled by ignorant people claiming to argue on books. I see no reason why you can't celebrate Shivaratri at the Krisna temple when you can celebrate the anniversary of Srila Prabhupada there!! A few years back a lady devotee in the Spain temple wrote to the temple authorities about the dissatisfaction on celebrating Shivratri at the temple writing why would you celebrate some demi-God's festival!

Dear devotee, there was the vedic period when some rishis would meditate for one year and then write down one shloka as the essence of their whole year's experience in cosmic consciouseness. This shloka was so powerful that if you expand it, it would be a whole book of commentary on its conclusion and explanation. And now there are people who are writing purports deciding which God to put where!

And don't worry, if my heart was of stone and disinterested spiritually, I wouldn't even bother to look into this site! As you quoted Sri Krsna saying to surrender to his pure devotee, would that mean we can also surrender to Lord Shiva? Why not? He is more than a pure devotee! He is referred to by Lord Brahma as the Supreme Lord in Bhagwatam! There is nothing wrong with it either! If you can surrender yourself to Sri Krsna, it is great!
I haven't come here to speculate either.
I came here to defend the belittling of Lord Shiva.
I'm a Krishna devotee anyway! I come from a Vaisnava family where Rama and Krishna are the principle deities. But I'm also well aware of the Shaiv siddhanta, the importance of Vedic spiritual sadhnas of Kriya kundalini yoga. Yogis are also advanced devotees full of bhakti and not materialists as I've heard in some of the discussions. Sometimes I wonder, why we in our sampradaya defend everyword of ours but relate very loosely and disrespectfully t o other sampradayas. Even the advaitas have attained God realization!

I wrote my thoughts. You have the liberty of not accepting it! I'm not preaching.
But please do accept my humble apologies if what I have written is not what you wanted to hear! I cannot be annoyed because your cause is noble and all you are trying to do is to praise the Lord in your way! Which is commendable!

I bow before Srila Prabhupada and Sri Radhe-Krishna!
I praise all the devotees of Sri Krishna and Shiva!

I detest all the so called devotees who though praise Krishna or Shiva but belittle the other propagating him to be inferior and small. Who go around distributing free blasphemies.

Hare Krishna
Om Namah Shivay

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and then Lord Sri Krishna himself praised the Lord of Lords!
Shiva Sehestranama!

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and then Lord Sri Krishna himself praised the Lord of Lords!
Shiva Sehestranama!

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and then Lord Sri Krishna himself praised the Lord of Lords!
Shiva Sehestranama!

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and then Lord Sri Krishna himself praised the Lord of Lords!
Shiva Sehestranama!