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Srimad Bhagvatam -
02-14-2005, 05:36 AM
Hare Krsna!
I hear that Srimad Bhagavatam is very benificial to read as it is the glorification of the Lord. But of course one needs to be at a certain level to absorb its potency and spiritual effects, not to metion understand it to the fullest capacity.
I was wondering what are these qualifications?
I currently chant 3 rounds a day, nearly a complete vegeterian, and have read Krsna, Bhagavad Gita, Krsna-Reservoir of Pleasure, Facts for Life, Science of Self Realization, and a few other books. From sites it is said after reading these one should proceed to read Srimad Bhagvatam, but I feel that I am not ready to read such a magnimous and spiritual book. I feel as though i am not pure enough.
What other things do i have to do before I become pure enough to read Srimad Bhagvatam?
Eg: vege, increase rounds etc...
I also hear it is good to read Srimad Bhagvatam Canto 1:1 but should the whole Bhagvatam be read after this?
Please help for i want to read about the pastimes of the Lord dearly.
Hare Krsna!
Please Help!
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Srimad Bhagvatam -
02-14-2005, 05:36 AM
Hare Krsna!
I hear that Srimad Bhagavatam is very benificial to read as it is the glorification of the Lord. But of course one needs to be at a certain level to absorb its potency and spiritual effects, not to metion understand it to the fullest capacity.
I was wondering what are these qualifications?
I currently chant 3 rounds a day, nearly a complete vegeterian, and have read Krsna, Bhagavad Gita, Krsna-Reservoir of Pleasure, Facts for Life, Science of Self Realization, and a few other books. From sites it is said after reading these one should proceed to read Srimad Bhagvatam, but I feel that I am not ready to read such a magnimous and spiritual book. I feel as though i am not pure enough.
What other things do i have to do before I become pure enough to read Srimad Bhagvatam?
Eg: vege, increase rounds etc...
I also hear it is good to read Srimad Bhagvatam Canto 1:1 but should the whole Bhagvatam be read after this?
Please help for i want to read about the pastimes of the Lord dearly.
Hare Krsna!
Please Help!
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books are all Srimad Bhagavatam (the science of bhagavan) -
02-14-2005, 05:53 AM
all the books you have read are at the same level of Srimad Bhagavatam, they're not less saint or esoteric
so if you increase in quality and quantity your japa rounds and if you became completely vegetarian it is surely necessary to progress in spiritual life, but you also can read srimad bhagavatam from now on
i repeat it : "Krsna, Bhagavad Gita, Krsna-Reservoir of Pleasure, Facts for Life, Science of Self Realization" are not less sacred than Srimad Bhagavatam.. so if you are reading these books simply go on and read also bhagavatam.. where's the problem?
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books are all Srimad Bhagavatam (the science of bhagavan) -
02-14-2005, 05:53 AM
all the books you have read are at the same level of Srimad Bhagavatam, they're not less saint or esoteric
so if you increase in quality and quantity your japa rounds and if you became completely vegetarian it is surely necessary to progress in spiritual life, but you also can read srimad bhagavatam from now on
i repeat it : "Krsna, Bhagavad Gita, Krsna-Reservoir of Pleasure, Facts for Life, Science of Self Realization" are not less sacred than Srimad Bhagavatam.. so if you are reading these books simply go on and read also bhagavatam.. where's the problem?
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Reading Bhagavatam -
02-14-2005, 11:29 AM
I think that if you eat meat then you cannot study the Srimad Bhagavatam.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Hare Krsna!
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Reading Bhagavatam -
02-14-2005, 11:29 AM
I think that if you eat meat then you cannot study the Srimad Bhagavatam.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Hare Krsna!
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purity! -
02-14-2005, 11:33 AM
omg! dont think like that! its falseness, its priests with big ego who want to uphold their status that say you cannot read anything which is about God! dont go in with it! listen to Saint isaa/jesus as i posted his teachings in another topic! its a book, if your not pure how can you ever get pure if someone or yourself does not allow you to take the key to become pure?
I say that it doesnt matter if your christian, brahman, or untouchable, everyone should have the right to read those books so they can at least try to attain KC!
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purity! -
02-14-2005, 11:33 AM
omg! dont think like that! its falseness, its priests with big ego who want to uphold their status that say you cannot read anything which is about God! dont go in with it! listen to Saint isaa/jesus as i posted his teachings in another topic! its a book, if your not pure how can you ever get pure if someone or yourself does not allow you to take the key to become pure?
I say that it doesnt matter if your christian, brahman, or untouchable, everyone should have the right to read those books so they can at least try to attain KC!
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he has to read, all the world has to read -
02-14-2005, 11:39 AM
1)prabhupada's books are sold everywhere, in the streets, door to door, in the web and they're online. So i think that they are for everyone, not for a special caste with special feotures and behaviour
2)he's already reading prabhupada's books.. wich is the real difference from the books he's already reading and bhagavatam? Why he's qualified for reading bhagavad gita or krsna book (who's the tenth canto of bhagavatam) or other pure devotee's words and not the bhagavatam?
i think that he has to read, that all the world has to read..
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he has to read, all the world has to read -
02-14-2005, 11:39 AM
1)prabhupada's books are sold everywhere, in the streets, door to door, in the web and they're online. So i think that they are for everyone, not for a special caste with special feotures and behaviour
2)he's already reading prabhupada's books.. wich is the real difference from the books he's already reading and bhagavatam? Why he's qualified for reading bhagavad gita or krsna book (who's the tenth canto of bhagavatam) or other pure devotee's words and not the bhagavatam?
i think that he has to read, that all the world has to read..
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Hare Krsna! -
02-14-2005, 03:10 PM
Hare Krsna!
I am the original poster of the new article and I thank all of you for your encouragement. However, I have not completey given up meat eating yet so am I still qualified? Also, right now I am chanting at least three rounds a day, and sometimes more and I love reading about Lord Krsna. I also keep a Tulasi plant in my house, although I have no contact with any other devotees. I think I should read Canto 1.1 and then consider reading Bhagavatam. Should I download it of the net?
Hare Krsna!
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Hare Krsna! -
02-14-2005, 03:10 PM
Hare Krsna!
I am the original poster of the new article and I thank all of you for your encouragement. However, I have not completey given up meat eating yet so am I still qualified? Also, right now I am chanting at least three rounds a day, and sometimes more and I love reading about Lord Krsna. I also keep a Tulasi plant in my house, although I have no contact with any other devotees. I think I should read Canto 1.1 and then consider reading Bhagavatam. Should I download it of the net?
Hare Krsna!
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my opinion -
02-14-2005, 03:11 PM
Hare Krishna and dandavat pranam
The best is to hear from the agency of a pure devotee. Otherwise we can just read the Srimad-Bhagavatam (with purports by Srila Prabhupada), without any problems since you have already read the others. Don't worry about not being pure enough; the point is to become pure by reading Bhagavatam. The important point is to receive it in a humble state and not in a judgemental state of mind; if we do not understand something then as Srila Prabhupada would say just read it over and over again. The injuction is not to jump cantos but read to it in sequence; the warning is that in the tenth Canto that if the topmost lilas appear to be mundane activity to our minds then we must rewind back to Sri Ishopanishad and Bhagavad-Gita.
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my opinion -
02-14-2005, 03:11 PM
Hare Krishna and dandavat pranam
The best is to hear from the agency of a pure devotee. Otherwise we can just read the Srimad-Bhagavatam (with purports by Srila Prabhupada), without any problems since you have already read the others. Don't worry about not being pure enough; the point is to become pure by reading Bhagavatam. The important point is to receive it in a humble state and not in a judgemental state of mind; if we do not understand something then as Srila Prabhupada would say just read it over and over again. The injuction is not to jump cantos but read to it in sequence; the warning is that in the tenth Canto that if the topmost lilas appear to be mundane activity to our minds then we must rewind back to Sri Ishopanishad and Bhagavad-Gita.
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meat -
02-14-2005, 03:19 PM
Hare Krishna and dandavat pranam
Please definitely go ahead without any fears. As i said before if we do not find nectar in the confidential lilas of tenth Canto then we should come back and not proceed; i mean we should know where we stand. The Bhagavatam is meant for all, it is also meant for even non-human living entities what then to speak of humans and this is its unique position.
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meat -
02-14-2005, 03:19 PM
Hare Krishna and dandavat pranam
Please definitely go ahead without any fears. As i said before if we do not find nectar in the confidential lilas of tenth Canto then we should come back and not proceed; i mean we should know where we stand. The Bhagavatam is meant for all, it is also meant for even non-human living entities what then to speak of humans and this is its unique position.
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Hare Krsna -
02-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Hare Krsna!
Do you know of any lectures spoken about Glory of Srimad Bhagavatam and where to find them? Also, is it essential to read Sri Isopanisad before starting the Srimad Bhagavatam and what other books to be read in preperation for Srimad Bhagavtam?
Hare Krsna!
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Hare Krsna -
02-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Hare Krsna!
Do you know of any lectures spoken about Glory of Srimad Bhagavatam and where to find them? Also, is it essential to read Sri Isopanisad before starting the Srimad Bhagavatam and what other books to be read in preperation for Srimad Bhagavtam?
Hare Krsna!
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Hare Krsna! -
02-14-2005, 03:51 PM
Hare Krsna!
Dear Sumedh,
I STILL feel as though I do not deserve the Bhagavtam and its nectarine content within. I know one should be in a humble state of mind when reading it, but i feel as though I cannot read it(or even be in it's presence sometimes!)as I am so impure. Maybe I should increase my level of devotion for a period of time (Eg, 1 month) before starting it?
It may also be due to the fact that I have no contact with devotees except for the Greatest Tulasi Maharani, whom I personally tend to with her beck and call. (She is quite happy with me, as she always produces manjaris for Krsna!)
Also, it may be beacuse I do eat meat (sometimes) which I despise (due to family) although I take no other intoxication.
However, I think that it is maybe due to my age, for I am quite young (15) from a Hindu family. I feel as though I have wasted years, not being in the service of Krsna and that I have missed a great oportunity.
Another point I would like to say is that I have always been drawn to Krsna without any external help. From a small age I can remember walking into the libarary and searching frantically for books like "Shri Krishna Leela" and being so frustrated when the next issue wasn't there. Maybe this is why I have arrived at Krsna Con. The devotion that I show now to Krsna does not go well with my family, as they do not show much enthusiasm for ISKCON/Hinduism, so my Krsna Prema is self taught.
I must also point out that I am Very much interested in Sathya Sai Baba's teachings, like Love all Serve all, Seva, and Namasmaranam. (Like Krsna Sai Baba's teachings were also self taught; although I have started chanting with all sincerity now, as I think this Kali Yuga is fast degrading) As the household Temple is in my room I have spread across it my love of Krsna. I think this may have been a meritous gift from my previous birth.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand...
I cannot feel as though I can read Bhagavatam, maybe due to family, intox, or just the thought of such a Magestic Scripture.
PLEASE HELP!
Hare Krsna!
P.S, I live in UK but due to family probs I cannot reach out to ISKCON too much. ALthough I have had one beautiful darshan at Bhaktivedanta Manor of their Lordships Sri Sri Radha Gokulnanda!
(sorry for longness of reply)
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Hare Krsna! -
02-14-2005, 03:51 PM
Hare Krsna!
Dear Sumedh,
I STILL feel as though I do not deserve the Bhagavtam and its nectarine content within. I know one should be in a humble state of mind when reading it, but i feel as though I cannot read it(or even be in it's presence sometimes!)as I am so impure. Maybe I should increase my level of devotion for a period of time (Eg, 1 month) before starting it?
It may also be due to the fact that I have no contact with devotees except for the Greatest Tulasi Maharani, whom I personally tend to with her beck and call. (She is quite happy with me, as she always produces manjaris for Krsna!)
Also, it may be beacuse I do eat meat (sometimes) which I despise (due to family) although I take no other intoxication.
However, I think that it is maybe due to my age, for I am quite young (15) from a Hindu family. I feel as though I have wasted years, not being in the service of Krsna and that I have missed a great oportunity.
Another point I would like to say is that I have always been drawn to Krsna without any external help. From a small age I can remember walking into the libarary and searching frantically for books like "Shri Krishna Leela" and being so frustrated when the next issue wasn't there. Maybe this is why I have arrived at Krsna Con. The devotion that I show now to Krsna does not go well with my family, as they do not show much enthusiasm for ISKCON/Hinduism, so my Krsna Prema is self taught.
I must also point out that I am Very much interested in Sathya Sai Baba's teachings, like Love all Serve all, Seva, and Namasmaranam. (Like Krsna Sai Baba's teachings were also self taught; although I have started chanting with all sincerity now, as I think this Kali Yuga is fast degrading) As the household Temple is in my room I have spread across it my love of Krsna. I think this may have been a meritous gift from my previous birth.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand...
I cannot feel as though I can read Bhagavatam, maybe due to family, intox, or just the thought of such a Magestic Scripture.
PLEASE HELP!
Hare Krsna!
P.S, I live in UK but due to family probs I cannot reach out to ISKCON too much. ALthough I have had one beautiful darshan at Bhaktivedanta Manor of their Lordships Sri Sri Radha Gokulnanda!
(sorry for longness of reply)
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