Demystifying Spiritual phrases - 2 - That which moves and does not move

Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

Here is another phrase that stumps me...

It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
"That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
move. ..."

What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have
some insight into this verse.

Thank you and Jai Maa
Nanda

The Guru is Brahma, the Guru is Vishnu, the Guru is the Lord
Maheshvara. The Guru is actually the Supreme Divinity. Therefore we
bow down to the Respected Guru.
The Guru is Everything. He is the Principle that moves and does not move.
Jai Guru!!!
Ardis
on 2/19/05 12:52 PM, Nanda at chandimaakijai (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,
Here is another phrase that stumps me...
It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
"That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
move. ..."
What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?
Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have
some insight into this verse.
Thank you and Jai Maa
Nanda
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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

dear Nanda, maybe it means that...

Guru(GOD) is everything and also nothing.

JAI MA

--- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,
>
> Here is another phrase that stumps me...
>
> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
> move. ..."
>
> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?
>
> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but
have
> some insight into this verse.
>
> Thank you and Jai Maa
> Nanda

Namaste, Nandaji, and all of our beloved family,

To me, 'That Which Moves' is 'Shakti, the Divine Energy'.She who
Dances Upon the Stage of Consciousness'. She Who
Changes...Nature. 'That Which Moves Not'is Shiva, He Who Never
Changes, the Witness to Shakti's Dance...Consciousness.

Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!
muktimaa

--- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,
>
> Here is another phrase that stumps me...
>
> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
> move. ..."
>
> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?
>
> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have
> some insight into this verse.
>
> Thank you and Jai Maa
> Nanda

Yes, Muktimaa,

And the Guru is both

Jai Maa Jai Swamiji
Grace
On 20/02/2005, at 10:20 AM, muktimaa wrote:

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> Namaste, Nandaji, and all of our beloved family,
>
> To me, 'That Which Moves' is 'Shakti, the Divine Energy'.She who
> Dances Upon the Stage of Consciousness'. She Who.
> Changes...Nature. 'That Which Moves Not'is Shiva, He Who Never
> Changes, the Witness to Shakti's Dance...Consciousness.
>
> Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!
> ................. muktimaa
>
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> --- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@y...>
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> > Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,
> >
> > Here is another phrase that stumps me...
> >
> > It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
> > "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
> > move. ..."
> >
> > What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?
> >
> > Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have
> > some insight into this verse.
> >
> > Thank you and Jai Maa
> > Nanda
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--- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Grace Green <gmgreen108@w...>
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> Yes, Muktimaa,
> And the Guru is both
> Jai Maa Jai Swamiji
> Grace

Jai Guru, Grace!
Yes, the Guru is both... and Beyond. :<)
Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!
muktimaa

> On 20/02/2005, at 10:20 AM, muktimaa wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Namaste, Nandaji, and all of our beloved family,
> >
> > To me, 'That Which Moves' is 'Shakti, the Divine Energy'.She who
> > Dances Upon the Stage of Consciousness'. She Who.
> > Changes...Nature. 'That Which Moves Not'is Shiva, He Who Never
> > Changes, the Witness to Shakti's Dance...Consciousness.
> >
> > Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!
> > ................. muktimaa
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > --- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,
> > >
> > > Here is another phrase that stumps me...
> > >
> > > It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
> > > "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
> > > move. ..."
> > >
> > > What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?
> > >
> > > Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but
have
> > > some insight into this verse.
> > >
> > > Thank you and Jai Maa
> > > Nanda
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That’s a great understanding. Thank you, dear sister.
Ardis
on 2/19/05 3:20 PM, muktimaa at muktimaa (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
Namaste, Nandaji, and all of our beloved family,
To me, 'That Which Moves' is 'Shakti, the Divine Energy'.She who
Dances Upon the Stage of Consciousness'. She Who
Changes...Nature. 'That Which Moves Not'is Shiva, He Who Never
Changes, the Witness to Shakti's Dance...Consciousness.
Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!
muktimaa
--- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,
>
> Here is another phrase that stumps me...
>
> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
> move. ..."
>
> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?
>
> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have
> some insight into this verse.
>
> Thank you and Jai Maa
> Nanda
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The guru priciple is dynamic, proactive and fosters all manner
transformation toward betterment. Conversely the guru priciple
is also deeply silent, absolutely still and supremely perceptive.
Unmoving all move within it. Without tasting it tastes all things.
Unknowing there is nothing it does not know. This writing could go
on for pages, hours and days, yet it would still be deficient in its
discription of the guru.

--- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,
>
> Here is another phrase that stumps me...
>
> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
> move. ..."
>
> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?
>
> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but
have
> some insight into this verse.
>
> Thank you and Jai Maa
> Nanda

Without reaching there is nothing it does not touch. Taking nothing
it encompasses all. Nutritive it vitalizes. All issue from it and in
the end return to it. This is just the way it should be. And this is
the way it is and always will be. Without an adequate word for it we
could call it Maa.

--- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,
>
> Here is another phrase that stumps me...
>
> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
> move. ..."
>
> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?
>
> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but
have
> some insight into this verse.
>
> Thank you and Jai Maa
> Nanda

I was reading the Bhagavad Gita this evening, and ran across this:
Chapter 13, verse 15 (Eknath Easwaran's trans.):

"It [the beginningless Brahman] is both near and far,
both within and without every creature,
it moves and is unmoving."

So I think this phrase can be interpreted to be exactly parallel to
the verses Ardis has quoted below.

--- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Ardis Jackson <ardis1@v...> wrote:
> The Guru is Brahma, the Guru is Vishnu,
> the Guru is the Lord Maheshvara.
> The Guru is actually the Supreme Divinity.
> Therefore we bow down to the
> Respected Guru.
>
> The Guru is Everything.
> He is the Principle that moves and does not move.
>
> >
> on 2/19/05 12:52 PM, Nanda at chandimaakijai@y... wrote:
>
> > [....] in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...
> > "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not
> > move. ..."