Hello,

I am writing to ask for advice.
I have just recently been diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome after a barium
enema that had been done to rule out colon cancer and the like. As much as I am
happy that nothing more serious was found, and I am not quite happy with the IBS
diagnosis either, knowing that this is the stamp being put on anything that
can't be otherwise explained, the condition has been getting worse in the last
couple of weeks and now I am at a point of having to take time off work because
of the symptoms. At the moment I am going through a cycle of diarrhea which is
still easier to handle then constipation. The thing that bothers me most is the
"nervous" stomach. It is quite irritating and adds even more to the stress that
probably caused or causes the condition in the first place.

I live in Victoria, B.C., Canada and do have a Vaidya who I have been seeing for
about six months now but who makes him self very unavailable for follow ups on
intakes that had been done. So I decided to ask for advice on this list.

I am a 30 year old female, 5'11" tall, 172ish lbs. My prakruti was determined
as Vata Kapha. I am slightly overweight for my frame. I have been seeing the
vaidya for weightloss and diabetes type I. I was put on a diet consisting of
mainly of fish, millet, couscous, buckwheat, greens, asparagus and string beans,
spinach and the like. In the colder seasons I take fenugreek seeds and red
rice, in summer I am too avoid it. I am to avoid eggs, red meat, alcohol, hot
spicy foods, canned drinks, fruit juices, cold water/drinks, ice cream and the
like. So basically a somewhat kapha reducing and diabetic diet. Most of the
time I follow this diet, weak points are chocolate and fruits when low blood
sugar kicks in.

He also put me on the following supplements: triphala, karela tablets, neem
tablets, Cardana from AOR (for palpitations), amla, a maharishi for smooth
menstrual cycle, holy basil, turmeric, aloe gel three times daily.
Admittedly I do self medicate with magnesium/calcium, milk thistle, a mix of
shardunika and cinnamon, Rasayana Somalata from Circle of Health, evening
primrose oil, trikatu and hingvastak, acidophilus.

Being a trained Yoga instructor I am on a regular shat karma program in the
morning, jala neti, nasya, sutra neti once weekly, if I feel the need I do
vamana dhauti once weekly depending on mucous build-up, or bhasti if I get
constipated, daily oleation with mustard and castor oils, and a drop of castor
oil in the eyes at night.

My asana and sadhana practice used to be regular but has been suffering lately,
I am trying to make the time again.

What I am asking for is guidance, advice I can follow and the possibility of
doing check-ins once in a while if the condition changes. I know it is very hard
to diagnose or treat a condition this way, yet the way it is going right now
doesn't help much either. I have been getting herbs and herbal powders through
Banyan and the Ayurvedic Institute in the past and am able to mix formulas and
capsulate them myself if need be. Since I am in Canada I won't be able to get
most of the formulas and ayurvedic meds available in India that have been
mentioned on the list before.

Any input on- or off-list will be very muchly appreciated.

Thanks bunches and looking forward to any advice,
Claudia.


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for all to understand the situation]

Claudia Richey
Excess medication. That is the first possibility that came to the
mind first. Reasons are:

1 Many medicines for Diabetes, and occasional low sugar that you
mention.
2. Self medication using Calcium/magnesium suppliments. They are also
laxatives, especially so when combined with greens, diabetes
medication
3. Enthusiasm in yoga may sometimes displace nabhi chakra, and if so
watery loose motions or simply loose motions may occur, which no
other medication can correct, only a physio procedure is possible;
already available in archieves.
4. This could also be a "gut" reaction to barium enema.

Author suggests few simple home remedies, which you may try after consulting
your Vaidya

You can try keeping two pinches of Camphor on tongue and swallow with
a little water. Four times a day, every 3-4 hours.

Black tea/coffee, only yoghurt/buttermil for two days.

Rub nut meg on stone with a little water and lick ½ tsp of that extract in the
morning and evening. Mix in honey, if taste is unpleasant.

Keep adequately hydrated with pomegranate or apple juice. These two juices, by
themselves are remedy for loose motions. A powder formulations known by name
Dadimashtak churna, if available to you, is also a remedy for dyscentry.

Take pepper powder in buttermilk.
Heat lemon juice, mix in rock salt and brown sugar (raw sugar or jaggery or
honey) in it and drink that mixture.

Reduce medication, while monitoring blood sugar on daily basis.

It would be nice, if you discuss this with your Vaidya first and then
adopt whether this is right, since he knows your prakruti better.
Remote advice in case such as yours may be risky. Many alternatives are offered
for the reason that something may be more convenient than other remedies. But do
not try all at a time. Listen to the body, bowels.

Nabhi chakra procedure can be searched on the archieves using search facility
provided at top of message window.

Dr. Bhate


--- In ayurvedaonline (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Claudia Richey
<dragonette775@s...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am writing to ask for advice.
> I have just recently been diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome
after a barium enema that had been done to rule out colon cancer and
the like.

Hi Claudia ... The thing with IBS is the bowel keeps in spasms because there
is nothing in the bowel to push ... a table spoon of psyllium twice a day
can help.
FYI ... I ran my wife, a couple a times a year to the emergence room at the
hospital for twenty-five years with this problem; and then a doctor about
two years ago tested her for H-pylori, short for Helicobacter-pylori... a
bacteria that ether cause ulcers or just feeds off them, {they don't know
which} and sure enough if she didn't have it! He gave her an antibiotic for
it and she hasn't had a problem since.
They say it is a stress related disease, but then what isn't? I think you're
on the right track ... and it never hurts to keep asking for the answer in
your meditations.... Hope this helps ... Noel

Noel Gilbert
Counselor
Body, Mind & Soul
LifeStyle Counselor
Ayurveda - Herbalism
Nutrition - Medical Astrology


I am writing to ask for advice.
I have just recently been diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome after a
barium enema that had been done to rule out colon cancer and the like.Claudia.

--- In ayurvedaonline (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Claudia Richey
<dragonette775@s...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am writing to ask for advice.
> I have just recently been diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome


Dear Sister Claudia,

Greetings. Being a patient of IBS myself I can understand your
suffering. Mine started after a very severe skin problem was dealt
with using a combination of sulphur, mercury and God knows what,
applied externally. There was also a steroidal cream which was used.

I am yet to get over the problem completely and have to be very
careful regarding my diet.

Please follow the valuable instructions offered by this group.

You are too young to suffer so much. I too agree you go easy on the
exercises as you may be sapping your energy reserves.

Will pray for you to be relieved soon,
Jagannath.

hi claudia

i'm in vancouver these days - lovely summer you are having ;-)

IBS relates to a disturbance in the enteric nervous system (ENS) in the
colon, and thus is a vata disorder
your diet is mainly orientated to reducing kapha and pitta, and seems
inappropriate to me
instead, lots of warm soupy, fragrantly-spiced dishes, with meats and
stewed vegetables
steamed vegetables with grated ginger is good too
and a little high protein grains like quinoa and pot barley can also be
added

avoid raw foods and lots of fruit right now, and don't eat fruit after
meals
avoid flours of any kind, as well as sugar, coffee and chocolate
and because you are type 1 diabetes, you need to reduce your glycemic
load to control insulin levels - if you don't already have it get
Bernstein's book because its the only way to grow old (and stay
healthy) with IDDM

as for dhauti and enema once a week, i am not sure these (esp. the
latter) are very helpful in your case - you need to develop some kind
of natural, consistent order of functions, and not force things - the
colon needs gentle treatment, like loving, gentle care to weak and
frightened patient

in IDDM, a common problem that occurs is gastroparesis, or delayed
gastric emptying and general poor gastric motility - and this might be
part of your issue (and hence, another need to have meticulous control
over blood sugar)

herbs need to be aromatic, warming and strengthening, with a downward
moving activity - a little bitter is OK but neem and karela are
probably too cooling - remember, IDDM is essentially a vattika
disorder, and you always have to bear this in mind - karela and neem
are more indicated in type 2 diabetes, when the pancreas still produces
some insulin - and the disease is one of excess

i am thinking of aromatic herbs like coriander, caraway, fennel, with a
little pippali, orange peel and ginger, and some barberry for the
liver- you might also add in some chinese herbs like codonopsis,
ginseng or astragalus (e.g. 6 gentlemen formula) to strengthen the
energy deficiency that sometimes occurs in IBS (the chinese say "spleen
qi" deficiency, what we might call vishamagni in ayurveda) - for
chronic GI spasm i often use wild yam, which relaxes imbalanced nervous
function in the ENS

if i was to construct a formula for you it might look something like
this:

Astragalus 15
Codonopsis 15
Caraway 15
Fennel 15
Wild Yam 15
Barberry 15
Licorice 10

take 1 tsp of the combined tinctures before meals 3-4 times a day, with
a little water

in addition, you can drink a ginger-coriander seed tea brew throughout
the day, between meals

for the constipation phase you need to add adequate fiber (e.g. flax,
hemp seed) with lots of water, and gentle, bowel-stimulating herbs -
for this i don't find triphala sufficient, and so will use triphala
with trivrit, or another formula (for e.g. you might try wild rose's
LBT3,1- 2 tab 2-3/day, or renew life's CleanseMORE, same dose) - i also
will add a probiotic if i suspect damage to the gut flora

for the diarrhea-phase, the addition of some astringent herbs like
carob bean powder is probably all you need, but stronger remedies exist
if need be - just ask

to ease colic pains try rubbing your belly with some oil infused with
lavender, lemon balm or chamomile essential oil, and applying a hot
water bottle wrapped in a towel

also, investigate the possibility of what emotional issues you are not
digesting - typically the colon relates to issue of not 'letting go' of
something, whether it be something or someone, or other feelings like
fear and anxiety - as a yoga instructor i am sure you are familiar with
how the breath affects digestion

by the way, i rarely work on any other issue unless the digestive
system is functionally reasonably well - this is the first and then
last priority in the treatment of any health issue

best... todd caldecott

On 11-Jul-05, at 3:12 AM, ayurvedaonline (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com wrote:

> I am a 30 year old female, 5'11" tall, 172ish lbs. My prakruti was
> determined as Vata Kapha. I am slightly overweight for my frame. I
> have been seeing the vaidya for weightloss and diabetes type I. I was
> put on a diet consisting of mainly of fish, millet, couscous,
> buckwheat, greens, asparagus and string beans, spinach and the like.

Thanks to everyone replying to my query.

Jagannath, thank you for your kind words. I do have blemishes that seem
watery and spongy on my back and in my face, yet I have not made the connection
between them and the IBS. I will have to check into that.

Noel, your wifes condition sounds bad, I am glad that she got over it and it
turned out to be treatable or curable being a bacterial infection. You are
right, I think most diseases arestress related and manifestations of mental
things going on. I will take your advice to heart and meditate on it (as a
matter of fact there are other conditions I should do that with).

Dr. Bhate,
thank you for all your valuable input, I will try and cut down on my
supplement regime and medication. I think i will make a start by going with the
original plan my Vaidya had for me and cut back on the things I have been taking
on my own for a long time. Now that you say it of course I realize that
magnesium being a muscle relaxant probably doesn't help when I go through about
of diarrhea.

It will be very difficult to find a physio therapist who is familiar with the
Nabhi chakra procedure, yet being an acupuncturist myself I am familiar with
cupping, so I think I will try it on myself and see if it will make a
difference. If not then nothing is lost. I will report back to you.

My Vaidya adviced against any fruit or dairy products, only allowing me milk
to mix with turmeric.
The bout of diarrhea did come on after the barium enema which I my body/mind
rejected very much. Before that I was constipated, even on the liquid diet I
had to follow two days prior to the enema.

I will try the camphor and nutmeg but will have to stay away from the fruit
juices I think because of my diabetes. It is very hard to control the
bloodsugar levels on fruitjuices as they get absorbed so fast.
I do chew on cardamom seeds between meals, is that okay or should I leave it?
And would calamus powder be helpful? How would I take it?
Also: may there be a connection between my bowel problems and
dizziness/postural hypotension? I have hypotension yet a rapid pulse, resting
rate between 70 and 80. My tongue is usually wet, often with a white to
yellowish coat on the back that urns brown or blackish when constipated. Just
in case this information is helpful.

Thank you very much for your answers, I do have an appointment to see my
vaidya this coming weekend, given it won't get cancelled. I will run your
suggestions by him and hope that he can advice about my prakruti and can update
his views on my condition. And I promise to be careful and keep on monitoring
my condition and reactions to the remedies very closely.

Claudia.


> Hello,
>
> I am writing to ask for advice.
> I have just recently been diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome



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Claudia

Apart from Jagannath and Joel, you have to thank Todd too. He has
rightly guessed this as Vatic disorder.

> Thanks to everyone replying to my query.
> It will be very difficult to find a physio therapist who is
familiar with the Nabhi chakra procedure, yet being an acupuncturist
myself I am familiar with cupping, so I think I will try it on myself
and see if it will make a difference. If not then nothing is lost.
I will report back to you.

please check up:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...e/message/1451

As a fortuitous coincidence, since you are an acupuncturist, perhaps
you know Sujok theory points on palm. Hold your left palm in front of you, Put
four fingers of right hand under the left pam. Use right thumb.

Start pressing from centre of roots of middle and ring finger of left
hand. Trace a path of the shape "reversed question mark", ending at
centre of ulnar border of left palm. Repeat several times. This remedy works on
those who often try accupressure/puncture. Do not continue after diarrhea stops.

> The bout of diarrhea did come on after the barium enema which I
my body/mind rejected very much. Before that I was constipated, even
on the liquid diet I had to follow two days prior to the enema.

Perhaps this is new experience that Barium acts similar as Magnesium. Body, when
dhatus are depleted responds to foreign substances in this fashion. Loose
motions or Vomits.

Vatic disorder is consistent with guess by Todd and also your history mentioned
in post "coffee" by you. Long time use of stimulants like coffee exhausts
dhatus, and space created by dhatus is taken by Vata.
Constipation is the basic symptom of Vata. Your night shift working
created seed, and coffee provided "manure" for vata to grow. The skin
problem you mention is also result of Vata. (Fatigued nervous system)
Blemishes indicate inadequate bile/enzymes production by liver.

> I do chew on cardamom seeds between meals, is that okay or should
I leave it? And would calamus powder be helpful? How would I take
it?

Cardamom seeds OK. Calamus powder, no experience or knowledge.

> Also: may there be a connection between my bowel problems and
dizziness/postural hypotension? I have hypotension yet a rapid
pulse, resting rate between 70 and 80. My tongue is usually wet,
often with a white to yellowish coat on the back that turns brown or
blackish when constipated. Just in case this information is helpful.

Disturbed metabolism resulting in lack of utilization of rasa to
produce energy and further dhatus. Root cause is liver. In the
opinion of this author, when liver is ignored for a long time
diabetes sets in. The liver and pancreas together are our "fuel
burning engines" to produce energy and dhatus. Instead of too much
fixation on glyceimic indices, one needs to activate liver and
pancreas as a set.

Dr Bhate


>
> Claudia.

Hello Todd,

welcome back to the west coast. Supposed to be sunny the next few days. You
coming from a warmer climate I'd think you would enjoy the typical rain here.
;-)

Another wealth of information here.
IBS being a vata disorder does make it very difficult for me to wrap my head
around since I have been treated mainly for kapha and to some extend Pitta
(especially now in summer), so making the appropriate dietary adjustments is a
real challenge.
I have been following a low glycemic index diet, eating chocolate is an
emotional nurturing I am well aware off and coffee may be as well. I am aware
of the effects coffee and chocolate have on my bowels and have been cutting down
quite a bit. The effects of adjusting my habits are quite immediate.
I'm glad you mentioned pot-barley. the last two days I have been on
pot-barley and eggplant stew (though I know that eggplant is heating to an
extend it seems to have a nurturing quality for my gut when soaked and cooked
with good quality oils).
I believe that the cause for my problems is a raw food diet I put myself on
last year, my digestion has never been the same since and my spleen is still
holding a grudge. So raw foods are pretty well out. So are fruits and berries
as they seem to cause bad reactions.

Vamana dhauti I picked up in reference to a yogic shat karma regime, it was
also suggested to remove excessive kapha in the lungs and bronchies in case of
shortness of beath and asthmatic conditions which I am dealing with on exertion
(unfortunately). I find it helpful though try not to overdue it and use my
discretion - no mucous build-up os shortness of breath meams no dhauti for long
periods of time.

Interesting that neem and karela are too cooling though I know that bitter
flavours tend to be cooling and downward moving, so again I'm guessing that it
may not be a good thing to take during bouts of diarrhea, do you suggest to cut
them out completely for a while? I do try and incorporate fennel, cardamom,
coriander, ginger and pepper into my daily diet, orange peel I'm guessing to
regulate qi (Chen Pi?)?
I have been thinking in terms of spleen qi deficiency yet tend to think that
it may be more of a large intestine problem? Maybe both? Which to treat?

I do have a probiotic manufactured by a local (Vancouver) company you may have
heard of: Bio Enzyme. Also grainfields drink with acidophilus. I try and keep
my meds down so I'm not taking these things on a regular basis, are you
suggesting to only use them with constipation then, and to only then use flax
seed or isbagol ?
Is there anything I can use to substitute gan cao in the formula you gave? I
know it is important to harmonize the formula though the taste and smell of
licorice makes me gag, I think that is why I try to stay away from most chinese
formulas now though for years I have been taking them while I was going to a
college of TCM.

I'm sure that a lot of my problems stem from anxiety and emotional problems
which take a lot more work and usually longer to get identified and to be worked
with. Working on it. Meanwhile this IBS thing is doing whatever it can to grab
hold and distract me from what really needs to be dealt with. Loss of control,
heavy wood issues, aren't they?

Thank you for all your input, I will try to implement whatever I can.
Claudia.

hi claudia

IBS relates to a disturbance in the enteric nervous system (ENS) in the
colon, and thus is a vata disorder

Dear mr Bhate, and Todd, I belong to the
anciant secret society of the orient. I like to
exchange my views with you about freequent stools
called irritable bowel,

Try Baskara lavana a salt based medicine,
Try pravala panchamirtha, calcium based medicine,
Try kaseesa bhasma iron based medicine
Try jasada bhasma zinc based medicine
And try rajada bhasma with ghee or butter and
challenge that you will cure the disease permanently
in just two weeks and the results are permanent in
this metal.
If like herbs the bark of pomegranede with butter
milk
or the seed of poppy plant, or the leaves of fig tree.
oh nice set stomach tight .
bye
R.Vidhyasagar

--- Shirish Bhate <shirishbhate@...> wrote:

> Claudia
>
> Apart from Jagannath and Joel, you have to thank
> Todd too. He has
> rightly guessed this as Vatic disorder.
>

On 12-Jul-05, at 3:11 AM, ayurvedaonline (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com wrote:

>
> Another wealth of information here.
> IBS being a vata disorder does make it very difficult for me to
> wrap my head around since I have been treated mainly for kapha and to
> some extend Pitta (especially now in summer), so making the
> appropriate dietary adjustments is a real challenge.

you don't need to be treated for pitta because its summer
this is a confusion between preventative measures and therapeutic
measures
you need to focus on the qualities of the illness, which are related to
wind

> I have been following a low glycemic index diet, eating chocolate is
> an emotional nurturing I am well aware off and coffee may be as well.
>
chocolate serves a number of purposes, from modifying brain chemicals
to supplying nutrients like magnesium
try eating just cacoa powder, mixed with vanilla extract, stevia and
hot water - see if this is acceptable
otherwise, avoid it

> I believe that the cause for my problems is a raw food diet I put
> myself on last year, my digestion has never been the same since and my
> spleen is still holding a grudge.

yeah i see a lot of this - i think raw food diets cause big problems in most
people one factor is the ingestion of numerous microorganisms and parasites on
raw vegetables as your digestion improves you can challenge some of these again,
but probably stewed dried fruits (prunes, dates) with spices like ginger and
cardamom are your best bet now- but because u r diabetic you have to eat very
little of this, and maybe prepare it with a little butter,
cream or coconut milk to lower the glycemic index

>
> Vamana dhauti I picked up in reference to a yogic shat karma regime, it was
also suggested to remove excessive kapha in the lungs and bronchies in case of
shortness of beath and asthmatic conditions which I am dealing with on exertion
(unfortunately). I find it helpful though try not to overdue it and use my
discretion - no mucous build-up or shortness of breath meams no dhauti for long
periods of time.

there may be less harsh methods as well, by looking at the foods you
eat the generate mucus (dairy, sugar, flour), and using a few simple
remedies to get rid of excess mucus - yogi teas have a blend called
'breathe deep' with eucalyptus and black pepper which is pretty good;
nadi shodhana, kapalbhati, bhastrika etc.

i think some of these techniques like vamana and vasti end up creating more
problems because they overshoot the mark - we want to create balance, not
reaction - shamana (pacificatory) karma is what we need here

>
> Interesting that neem and karela are too cooling though I know that bitter
flavours tend to be cooling and downward moving, so again I'm guessing that it
may not be a good thing to take during bouts of
> diarrhea, do you suggest to cut them out completely for a while? I do try and
incorporate fennel, cardamom, coriander, ginger and pepper
> into my daily diet, orange peel I'm guessing to regulate qi (Chen
> Pi?)?

due to its panchabhautic composition the action of bitters is not
downward, but spreading and permeating, acting to empty, dry and
lighten, scraping out ama for elimination - however, its effect on the bowel is
similarly light and dry, which can promote constipation and can derange the ENS

a downward action is really only the activity of herbs with lots of
prithvi - thus roots with a bitter taste can have this quality,
although barks will often have this effect

i would keep bitters, but not as the chief herb but more supporting, to sink the
bile, but would choose those that have a comparatively warming activity, like
barberry, turmeric or yellowdock - neem and karela are too cold in my estimation

the aromatics should be helpful - chen pi regulates qi, but doesn't
support it - this is where the "tonic" herbs come in like codonopsis,
astragalus and ginseng

> I have been thinking in terms of spleen qi deficiency yet tend to
> think that it may be more of a large intestine problem? Maybe both? Which to
treat?

it sounds like a spleen qi deficiency, which is combined a vata-kapha
disorder of the upper GIT
often digestive problems begin in the stomach, for e.g. eating raw food is too
cold for the stomach, and can weaken agni
usually the entire GIT needs to be addressed, beginning with what we
put into our mouths, how we chew it under what conditions, and the
actions of the stomach, small intestine and then colon - its rarely
just a "colon" issue

>
> I do have a probiotic manufactured by a local (Vancouver) company
> you may have heard of: Bio Enzyme. Also grainfields drink with
> acidophilus. I try and keep my meds down so I'm not taking these
> things on a regular basis, are you suggesting to only use them with
> constipation then, and to only then use flax seed or isbagol ?

use probiotics periodically, rotating brands and strains during the
constipation phase, and lay off during the diarrhea phase; fibers are
best taken during this time too


> Is there anything I can use to substitute gan cao in the formula you
> gave? I know it is important to harmonize the formula though the
> taste and smell of licorice makes me gag, I think that is why I try to
> stay away from most chinese formulas now though for years I have been
> taking them while I was going to a college of TCM.

try ginger instead, or maybe a mint like spearmint
as tinctures, you might try to get them from a western-type herbalist
there used to be a store self heal herbs on the island - if not, you
can get this from gaia garden in vancouver


best...
Todd Caldecott
todd@...
www.toddcaldecott.com

As many of the members are in west and its not easy to get some of the things
written here. What would be the permanent cure for constipation.

r vidhyasagar <dr_vidhyasagar_54@...> wrote:
I like to
exchange my views with you about freequent stools
called irritable bowel,
Try Baskara lavana a salt based medicine,
Try pravala panchamirtha, calcium based medicine,
Try kaseesa bhasma iron based medicine
Try jasada bhasma zinc based medicine
And try rajada bhasma with ghee or butter and
challenge that you will cure the disease permanently
in just two weeks and the results are permanent in
this metal.
If like herbs the bark of pomegranede with butter
milk
or the seed of poppy plant, or the leaves of fig tree.
oh nice set stomach tight .
bye
R.Vidhyasagar

Todd,

thanks for making the wind-connection. That's just what it is and I tend to
overlook it. Comes in with Dr. Bhates theory on Liver stuff going on, at least
in my TCM based understanding, so it makes sense to me.

When I eat fruit compotes I usually put a little bit of ghee over it, I do
tend to eat things like that when I feel ungrounded and unsettled and "blown
away", so that makes sense too. Will defenitely try your chocolate substitute
suggestion. Sound.... ehem ..... yummy. :-)
And your other suggestions as well. Thank you for translating my TCM based
terms into ayurvedic terms as this is where I still have problems. For me it's
bridging the gap between TCM and Ayurveda as I study both and would like to be
able to cross reference better, just for my own understanding.

I'm familiar with the pranayama you suggested and will include the ones that
are not already part of my practice.

Self heal herbs are still in Victoria, I'll pay them a visit.

Thanks bunches,
Claudia.




On 12-Jul-05, at 3:11 AM, ayurvedaonline (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com wrote:

>
you don't need to be treated for pitta because its summer
this is a confusion between preventative measures and therapeutic
measures
you need to focus on the qualities of the illness, which are related to
wind