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Old 08-30-2001, 06:08 PM   #1

takeitup_2000
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For those of you who don't know the Guru, I'm
sorry a mired story of his relationship with his sons
made this site. I've spent as much time or more than
anyone besides G Herlich practicing w/ Manju and also
hanging with him. We've talked @ length about our Dads
and growing up in different worlds. How can anyone
make an excuse or an apolgy for their parents? They
are their own people who probably won't be influenced
by a child.

What I can say for Manju is that
he has incredible health and a great view of this
world. His legacy is great. His father and recently
passed mother, Amma, provided for him well.

I
was one of the 1st western students to study w/
Guruji in Mysore after the passing of his son Ramesh. He
was hit very hard, He and I would do pranayama alone
and afterwards he would cry. I would visit him in the
evenings to just sit w/ he and Amma and sometimes he would
break down and just cry about Ramesh. I cannot say how
he treated his son during his living days but his
respect for him and sorrow at their premature seperation
was as great as I seen between two people.


Yours in Yoga,

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Old 08-30-2001, 08:33 PM   #2

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Thank you for infusing some humanity in this
discussion.
Why further the tragedy of suicide, by
placing blame? Many people who take their own lives come
from entirely normal and loving backgrounds. It's the
unendurable pain of existence that puts them over the
edge.
Our culture loves to assign blame and can't stand to
accept some things as inexplicable (though tragic)
mystery. Sometimes there's no accounting for the sad and
awful things that happen in life.
Much Love
PM

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Old 08-31-2001, 06:31 AM   #3

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I considered carefully before I posted that story
and decided that I would go ahead since the focus of
my post was not the very sad story of Guruji's
family, but the way this horrible person I encountered
choose to convey his preposterous version of this very
personal and sensitive story in order to serve his
purposes even after he learned that I practiced ashtanga.
Needless to say, I was horrified by the shameless cruelty
and utter absence of basic human decency that was
demonstrated in that situation.

I have heard many,
many riduculous and even cruel stories about ashtanga
yoga and Guruji and Sharat from people who are just
shooting their fat mouths off and are looking for some
attention. It is my opinion that 90% of what is 'passed on'
is utter crap. The story I told is just an example
of how rumors take on a life of their own and
eventually bear no connection to reality.

"Viscious"
adjustments???? Don't be ridiculous! Viscious was the person who
told that terrible story. There are real people
involved in these stories, not make believe characters in
a yoga book. Try to consider that when considering
the validity of a rumor and the rumor looses steam.
If you want to know about these adjustments, ask
Guruji himself or watch a class. He is one of the most
accessible guru's/yoga teachers alive.

Surely people
have been 'injured' doing yoga but the question is who
is responsible. My experience is that the minute I
make even a tiny sound of discomfort, the assistant
backs off, unless of course I am around INEXPERIENCED
and UNQUALIFIED fake ashtanga teachers that I have to
fight off with a baseball bat.

FBL

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