Mantras: Re: To manoj and joanna about moving on to a new guru (was Mantras+

03-05-2006, 10:55 PM

Also I want to add , someone mentioned getting mantras from few Gurus,
I believe that it depend from Whom one got it , if a person received a mantra
from Realized Master there is no need to get any other mantra , such mantras
are imbeded seeds that need to be nourished, with this seed of Guru's power that
is
transmitted with mantra there is a lot going on in once physiological and
spiritual
blueprint to which we are at times not aware , and it probably then is not
correct to
play around with such infusions, unless and once again unless a Perfect Realized
Master
Guru specifies so to His/Her Sadhaka. One quote that did stay in my mind was
Ammachi
was asked about different paths in spiritual experimentations , and this was the
response
" Why would one keep their feet in two different boats ". Ultimately I do
realize that
having this One Guru One Mantra is really much simpler solutin for humans in
already
complicated world of life and its presiding issues.

love , Joanna
>
> In general, Amma believes in one guru for life, so
> there is a problem with mantras from various gurus.
> If the person who wants to get a mantra talks to the
> people who do mantra seva, they can answer specific
> questions, all of which is subject to Amma's approval.
>
> Love,
> Jyotsna
>
>
>
> --- In Ammachi (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, nierika@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > manoj wrote (to joanna about requesting a mantra from Amma):
> >
> > If you already have one, then the general suggestion is to stick
> to
> > it because at the time of initiation, a powerful bond has been
> > created, and your repetitions have deepened the bond further.
> Taking
> > another mantra (especially from another guru) may require more
> > effort to un-bond the old and bond the new before the mantra
> > starts 'singing'. not a very productive strategy as you can
> > see. .... but you never know, talk to Amma and explain all of this
> > to her and see what she says. Grace can free up a lot of the past.
> >
> > if you don't already have one from Karunamayi (viz she promised to
> > give a mantra but has not yet delivered because of lack of time
> > etc), then I guess it's not a harm to get a mantra from Amma.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear manoj and joanna ~ I have never heard that, having received a
> mantra
> > from one guru, that following one's heart that leads you to another
> guru would
> > preclude you from asking that guru for a mantra. Even if Karunamayi
> gave you
> > (joanna) a mantra, I don't believe that precludes you asking for
> one from
> > Amma, particularly if your heart feels clear that your guru is now
> Amma. You
> > might want to discuss this with whatever Swami or Swamini is in
> charge of the
> > mantra line.
> >
> > I will resort to a concept that I learned from Swami Satyananda
> Saraswati. I
> > was fortunate to see Swamiji and Shree Maa on their last (and maybe
> final) US
> > tour. I watched them perform a wonderful yagya (fire ceremony) and
> the bank
> > of a river in Colorado and then I was fortunate to, a few weeks
> later, attend
> > a several days retreat in Issaqua, Washington. During a lecture,
> Swami
> > discussed a concept called the "upa guru." Since this process has
> an actual name,
> > and I trust Swamiji implicitely, I believe this concept to be
> rooted in Hindu
> > tradition. Even Swamiji had several gurus before he met Shree Maa.
> >
> > The "upa guru" is the one who gives you the knowledge up to a
> certain point
> > where you are then drawn to another guru. The "upa guru" leads you
> to your
> > next guru, and maybe to the next and so on. Swamiji likened this
> to being in
> > school. He said, "the best gift you can give your first grade
> teacher is to pass
> > first grade and go to second grade; the best gift you can give
> your second
> > grade teacher is to pass and move on to third grade. At some point
> you will
> > discover your lifelong guru, who is also an "upa guru" because (S)
> He leads you
> > to the Supreme Guru.
> >
> > I would request that anyone inclined please resist the desire to
> criticize
> > Swamiji or Shree Maa. If there is a need to criticize someone, then
> criticize
> > me ... please.
> >
> > Jai Ma ~ Linda
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>