Perhaps you expect to much there when you shouldn't expect anything. For if one
expects something then that is the beginning of the EGO mind (EGO - Edging God
Out). Flow along in life and accept what IS. Sometimes a 100 watt bulb needs to
cool before it can light up again and not overdo itself. And who knows ......
that 100 watt bulb can probably handle a 200 watt bulb when the timing is right.

Namasté

Alexander

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--- Erica <sugarandbrine@...> wrote:

> My dear siblings,
>
> I am so disconnected from Amma. It's sad. I have no
> yearning, no
> want, no longing whatsoever. I see Amma's picture
> and feel nothing.
> Nothing negative but also nothing positive. I just
> see her as a
> constant there, in her pictures...in my life... I
> only feel apathetic
> and disconnected. She is a plug point and I am the
> cord, laying on
> the ground with such potential when plugged in, but
> completely
> useless alone...


YOUR RNAUBANDHANA WITH AMMA IS OVER.
>
> Maybe the honeymoon period is 100% over now. Maybe I
> am too focused
> on the mundane things in this life to remember my
> Ma.
>
NO. HUNGRY STMACH IS NO GOOD FOR RELIGION. ALL PEOPLE
WHO ARE NOT IN INDIA AND MINGLING WITH EASTERN
RELIGION IS KIDDING THEMSELVES. OUR BATTLEFIELD IS IN
WEST.



> I wonder what this feeling is all about? Why does
> this happen to us?
> Is there some lesson in this or is this ego or mind
> or WHAT?
THERE IS NO LESSON TO LEARN.

IT IS OVER.


>
> Where's the love?

IN YOU. FORGET THAT?
>
> Sighing in her Soul,
> Niseema
>
>




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> YOUR RNAUBANDHANA WITH AMMA IS OVER.

I have no idea what you mean by this.


> NO. HUNGRY STMACH IS NO GOOD FOR RELIGION. ALL PEOPLE
> WHO ARE NOT IN INDIA AND MINGLING WITH EASTERN
> RELIGION IS KIDDING THEMSELVES. OUR BATTLEFIELD IS IN
> WEST.

Explain?

> THERE IS NO LESSON TO LEARN.
>
> IT IS OVER.

Are you implying that my relationship with Amma is over?

WHAT exactly is this?? What a vicious reply. No love in YOUR soul, that's pretty
obvious. Perhaps you should go to Afghanistan and hang out with the Muslim
extremeists. It's a shame to see a message like this come across with Amma's
name upon it.
In Amma's name...
Barry



> YOUR RNAUBANDHANA WITH AMMA IS OVER.
> >
>> NO. HUNGRY STMACH IS NO GOOD FOR RELIGION. ALL PEOPLE
> WHO ARE NOT IN INDIA AND MINGLING WITH EASTERN
> RELIGION IS KIDDING THEMSELVES. OUR BATTLEFIELD IS IN
> WEST.
>
>
> THERE IS NO LESSON TO LEARN.
>
> IT IS OVER.
>
>
> >

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Dear Erica

Cheer up! You say you are sad that you dont feel longing for Amma. Now isnt
that feeling of sadness that you have no longing for Her itself a sign of
longing? If you were really disconnected as you say, you would be blissfully
ignorant of your lack of longing- you wont feel sad about it. The fact that you
WANT to experience the connection and feel sad when you dont experience it , is
itself proof of the hidden connection lying deep within.

You can NEVER be disconnected from Amma. It is an ubreakable bond between the
Guru and the disciple. between God and the devotee and most importantly between
Mother and child.
You are Her child, and She is aware of it .

I asked Her a similar question this year- I asked Amma' Amma only sometimes I
feel like crying for You, sometimes i dont feel anything'.

Amma replied something to the effect of that being natural. She said ' You are
not hungry always are you ? Only sometimes the hunger will come'.

So hang in there .. watch an Amma video or just the sunset- go for a walk in
the woods or contemplate on the fact that we all have to die and nothing will
come with us except Amma.... then suddenly you will find yourself longing for
Her.

Thanks for sharing this. This 'dryness' is a common experience anmong most
sadhakas.But behind the dryness She is there, waiting.

in Amma,

bala





Erica <sugarandbrine@...> wrote:
My dear siblings,

I am so disconnected from Amma. It's sad. I have no yearning, no
want, no longing whatsoever. I see Amma's picture and feel nothing.
Nothing negative but also nothing positive. I just see her as a
constant there, in her pictures...in my life... I only feel apathetic
and disconnected. She is a plug point and I am the cord, laying on
the ground with such potential when plugged in, but completely
useless alone...

Maybe the honeymoon period is 100% over now. Maybe I am too focused
on the mundane things in this life to remember my Ma.

I wonder what this feeling is all about? Why does this happen to us?
Is there some lesson in this or is this ego or mind or WHAT?

Where's the love?

Sighing in her Soul,
Niseema



Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!


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--- In Ammachi (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Erica" <sugarandbrine@y...> wrote:
> > YOUR RNAUBANDHANA WITH AMMA IS OVER.
>
> I have no idea what you mean by this.
>
>
Hi Erica,

RNAUNBANDHANA is a term I read in Robert Svoboda's "Aghora - the
left-hand path of the Goddess". (The book is a good peek into the
world of the Tantric practices).

It is a term curiously related to karma (as in "it was my karma to
have this fate"). so, RNANUBANDHANA is more the karmic connection
between objects (including human/human, human/object, or
object/human), than the karma of an individual.

The above is just an explanation of what the post-er meant... not
what I accept to be true.

I don't think your connection with Amma is over.

Can you ever stop being yourself? No, right? In like manner, your
connection with Amma will never be over.

This is a temporary phase ... of the low following the ecstatic
high ... you will see these highs and lows throughout your sadhana;
fortunately with sincere practice and grace, the highs will be
longer and longer, and the lows smaller and smaller. THEN
EMANCIPATION, where it will be (I speculate) ONE BIG HIGH!

Jai Ma!

heyyy sugarbrandy ..

what happened .. dishum .. dishum .. attention got diverted to tummy problems
?.. hmm.. hey heyy !!!
<<
I am so disconnected from Amma. It's sad. I have no yearning, no
want, no longing whatsoever. I see Amma's picture and feel nothing.
Nothing negative but also nothing positive. I just see her as a
constant there, in her pictures...in my life... I only feel apathetic
and disconnected. She is a plug point and I am the cord, laying on
the ground with such potential when plugged in, but completely
useless alone...
>>

often seekers go through such a dry phase especially if they are following a
jnana marga or yoga marga. but while following the path of love and devotion,
there will be a pleasent taste throughout the journey.not only that in general
after the initial spiritual changes often people go through a bit thamasik
stgnant state too.. so be patient .. khurrr!!!! do not take that as an excuse ..
hmmm ... lol..

It is the change which often brings awareness and hence happiness to life . when
ever there is a change, we are like new born babies having wonders in the eyes.
is n't it ?. So introduce changes in every small small things . trouble amma in
every small small things . even while doing stretching exercise in the morning (
my morning time is 11.30 Am .. ha haaa.. ) rather than the typical haaaaa..
voice which I make , few weeks backs I changed that to haaa .. ma maaaa ..ha ha
haaa..( like the typical sounds which amma make during bhajans ) , with the
thought that "amma my joints are paining amma ..." . You should call amma with
that word by which you were calling your mom in the childhood in your own mother
tongue ..

Before doing any small activities ( example driving , cooking , taking bath ,
surfing net ), start with the prayer to amma . "amma let me able to do it 100%
without any dreams in between .. let me be able to do it with totality and
creativity . After finishing any activity show the gratitude back to amma by
saying thank you amma..

like bala uncle told, you cannot run away from amma. the bond was already there
, is there and will be there ..

like manoj said , just before , during and after amma's visit there, you were
going through a high phase . we could feel that from the mails at that time . So
this is a natural low phase for the energy to settle down. Keep on watching ..
keep on meditating on amma's smiling face in the heart.


with lots of luv
At amma's children's service
Your little brother
" We care about you, We care about the people around us"





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Hi Erica,

I hear that this is a cloudy moment for you. Without knowing you or any
details, I can only say with 110% confidence that our beloved Amma is
with you always always always. Pray to Her in whatever way you can.
Perhaps Amma is especially pleased when we pray and do our sadhana even
though its the last thing we feel like doing. There's always a lesson or
insight underneath the pain, if we're willing to embrace the feelings
fully. Going to satsangs is a sure way to lift my spirits. Are you near
a satsang group? If anything I write doesn't resonate, just toss it on
the compost pile... ;-)

I hope you will keep us posted.

Jai Amma,

Tom

Erica wrote:

>My dear siblings,
>
>I am so disconnected from Amma. It's sad. I have no yearning, no
>want, no longing whatsoever. I see Amma's picture and feel nothing.
>Nothing negative but also nothing positive. I just see her as a
>constant there, in her pictures...in my life... I only feel apathetic
>and disconnected. She is a plug point and I am the cord, laying on
>the ground with such potential when plugged in, but completely
>useless alone...
>
>Maybe the honeymoon period is 100% over now. Maybe I am too focused
>on the mundane things in this life to remember my Ma.
>
>I wonder what this feeling is all about? Why does this happen to us?
>Is there some lesson in this or is this ego or mind or WHAT?
>
>Where's the love?
>
>Sighing in her Soul,
>Niseema
>
>
>
>
>Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Nisseema,

I think you are right: the honeymoon is over. Don't be distressed.

At first when you meet a person who is to be your spiritual teacher,
you feel an infaturation, just like falling in love. It is a grace
that draws you to that person and starts you walking in their
footsteps.

Meeting with a sadguru is a rebirth experience. You go through all
the stages of growing up all over again in relation to this teacher,
including becoming a cranky adolescent who rebels at his or her
directives.

Sometimes when I watch Mother hugging people hour after hour, I see
that she looks a bit, well, bored. But she keeps on hugging
people. After all, all these thousands, no millions of people
depend on her. In spite of the feeling of boredom or impatience,
she keeps on doing what she has decided is her demonstration of
universal love. After a while, the feeling passes. She seeems more
engaged. That fidelity to her pledge in spite of moods impresses me.

Similarly, we will go trhough periods when being Amma's devotee is
not exciting, doesn't have a charge anymore. Like everything else,
that will change too. It is like some kind of internal weather that
passes through.

When it passes, you will be at a more mature stage as a devotee,
better able tobe of service and have a happy life as well.


Aikya

--- In Ammachi (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Erica" <sugarandbrine@y...> wrote:
> My dear siblings,
>
> I am so disconnected from Amma. It's sad. I have no yearning, no
> want, no longing whatsoever. I see Amma's picture and feel
nothing.
> Nothing negative but also nothing positive. I just see her as a
> constant there, in her pictures...in my life... I only feel
apathetic
> and disconnected. She is a plug point and I am the cord, laying on
> the ground with such potential when plugged in, but completely
> useless alone...
>
> Maybe the honeymoon period is 100% over now. Maybe I am too
focused
> on the mundane things in this life to remember my Ma.
>
> I wonder what this feeling is all about? Why does this happen to
us?
> Is there some lesson in this or is this ego or mind or WHAT?
>
> Where's the love?
>
> Sighing in her Soul,
> Niseema

Very Well Said Aikya, Beautiful food. Thanks for feeding us.
In Love
malati

n a message dated 8/31/04 10:30:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aikya@...
writes:

<< Hi Nisseema,

I think you are right: the honeymoon is over. Don't be distressed.

At first when you meet a person who is to be your spiritual teacher,
you feel an infaturation, just like falling in love. It is a grace
that draws you to that person and starts you walking in their
footsteps.

Meeting with a sadguru is a rebirth experience. You go through all
the stages of growing up all over again in relation to this teacher,
including becoming a cranky adolescent who rebels at his or her
directives.

Sometimes when I watch Mother hugging people hour after hour, I see
that she looks a bit, well, bored. But she keeps on hugging
people. After all, all these thousands, no millions of people
depend on her. In spite of the feeling of boredom or impatience,
she keeps on doing what she has decided is her demonstration of
universal love. After a while, the feeling passes. She seeems more
engaged. That fidelity to her pledge in spite of moods impresses me.

Similarly, we will go trhough periods when being Amma's devotee is
not exciting, doesn't have a charge anymore. Like everything else,
that will change too. It is like some kind of internal weather that
passes through.

When it passes, you will be at a more mature stage as a devotee,
better able tobe of service and have a happy life as well.


Aikya
>>

Namaste Erica,

I don't have a lot of time to write but wanted to tell you what helps me stay
on track. I am sure you have CD's of Amma's around the house. I take down a
picture of Amma put it in front of me with a candle and insence, put on a CD get
my books out and sing my WHOLE heart and SOUL into it. I sing for about an hour
to an hour and a half. When I am done I pray. Also I have been taught that if
you can not feel anything ACT like you feel it. The more you "act" like you feel
something, the more it will come to be. So start pretending! No matter how fake
it feels, just pretend you feel for our Mother. I have noticed if I goes a
couple of days without singing my bhajans I feel down. And when I sing them
again they pick me up. Try to do this A LOT. (I do it most evenings) You will be
feeling in no time... ! I will pray for you. All my love.

At Our Mothers Lotus Feet,
Robin

Erica <sugarandbrine@...> wrote:
My dear siblings,

I am so disconnected from Amma. It's sad. I have no yearning, no
want, no longing whatsoever. I see Amma's picture and feel nothing.
Nothing negative but also nothing positive. I just see her as a
constant there, in her pictures...in my life... I only feel apathetic
and disconnected. She is a plug point and I am the cord, laying on
the ground with such potential when plugged in, but completely
useless alone...

Maybe the honeymoon period is 100% over now. Maybe I am too focused
on the mundane things in this life to remember my Ma.

I wonder what this feeling is all about? Why does this happen to us?
Is there some lesson in this or is this ego or mind or WHAT?

Where's the love?

Sighing in her Soul,
Niseema



Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!


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While I wouldn't suggest that "silvagraduate" go to
Afghansistan and hang out with what's left of the
Taliban, as co-moderator of this group I would like
some further explanation from this person and will be
keeping a close eye on his/her further postings. I
presume from the Yahoo ID that this was written by a
graduate of the Silva Mind Control program.

"ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN INDIA AND MINGLING WITH
EASTERN RELIGION IS [sic] KIDDING THEMSELVES" This
statement is patently absurd.

BTW, any time I feel disconnected from Amma I reach
for my Amma doll!

Keval


--- raemel@... wrote:

> WHAT exactly is this?? What a vicious reply. No love
> in YOUR soul, that's pretty obvious. Perhaps you
> should go to Afghanistan and hang out with the
> Muslim extremeists. It's a shame to see a message
> like this come across with Amma's name upon it.
> In Amma's name...
> Barry
>
>
>
> > YOUR RNAUBANDHANA WITH AMMA IS OVER.
> > >
> >> NO. HUNGRY STMACH IS NO GOOD FOR RELIGION. ALL
> PEOPLE
> > WHO ARE NOT IN INDIA AND MINGLING WITH EASTERN
> > RELIGION IS KIDDING THEMSELVES. OUR BATTLEFIELD IS
> IN
> > WEST.
> >
> >
> > THERE IS NO LESSON TO LEARN.
> >
> > IT IS OVER.
> >
> >
> > >




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Niseema and all,

My relationship with Mother is kinda like all relationships -- it has its
ups and downs, fun times and hard times, bliss and despair. Like the
rollercoaster analogy or pendulum effect that someone else noted: what
goes up, must come down. Inevitable swings with a sadhak's enjoinder to
find balance between the joy and the sorrow natural to worldly life.

I keep amritapuri.org as my browser homepage so I can always get a dose of
"Amma Says" on a regular basis and keep an eye out for new pictures etc.
It's stunning how frequently the aphorism which appears on the screen
seems to apply to a current situation I may be grappling with, worrying
about, or mulling over. In July for example I had started a new flower
essence therapy, and was wondering if the water I had chosen was really
what I needed. Up popped a picture of Mother holding that very same
flower! Coincidence or confirmation? Ultimately it may not matter, as
this mind seems nowhere near calm enough to discern the time inconjuncts
behind that Maya anyway. But it's nice to feel as if Amma is playing Her
games with me even as She tends to all the rest of the world's business.
Inspiring, I guess, would be the description.

Sounds, Niseema, like you need some inspiration to restore succulence to
your deserted heart feeling. Maybe offer some water or milk or juicy
fruits to your Beloved as a physical symbol of That same energy??? Or
just cry: water your lonely heart with the grief of perceived separation.

love, prashanti

Bala said:

You can NEVER be disconnected from Amma.


----------------

So totally True ... nor NEVER be disconnected from God.

For me, this is the most fundamental key to it all.

Even through we may have the feelings or the thoughts that we are
disconnected from time to time, we are not. It is totally impossible. Feelings
and
thoughts do not last .. the Connection does, all ways!

So many churches, religions, etc., teach separation. If they all taught the
Truth, there would be no difference between them.

Knowing there is no disconnection is enough. When the feelings and thoughts
to contrary occur, experience them knowing they are only feelings and thoughts
and not the Truth.

Om namah shivaya,

Peter


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Om Namah Shivayah.

Namaste _/\_

I want to thank each one of you for writing. I guess I was looking
for less personal answers, but got some very personal help.

Thank you all so much. Mother's Grace flows through each one of you.

JAI MA!!!

With love,
Clinging to Mother's feet,
Niseema

PETER KANDAR, YOU ARE RIGHT. I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED ABOUT WHAT THE
SILVAGRADUATE HAD SAID, IT IS CONFUSING ME ALSO...I KNOW SHE OR HE SAID IT IN GOOD INTENTION, BUT IT CAME ACROSS SO COLD....HAVE YOU EVER FOUND OUT WHAT SHE/HE MEANT? LOTS OF PEOPLE WERE BOTHERED BY IT, ABOUT THE HUNGRY STOMACH AND SO ON....
ERICA: AMMA'S LOVE FLOWS LIKE A RIVER FEARLESSLY, INSPITE OF FEAR SOMETIMES....DISCONNECTION IS DUE TO OUR LIMITATION, LIKE A SUN THAT SHINES ABOVE THE CLOUDS. SIMPLEST WAY TO SOLVE THIS IS TO FOCUS ON LOVE AND DO, INSPITE OF FEAR AND DOUBTS...DON'T LET LOVE OF GOD COME TO YOU, SHINE OUT, THEREBY ALLOWING TO COME THROUGH YOU INSTANTLY...FEELING IS NOT ENOUGH, OFTEN THE REAL WORK IS DONE OUT OF OUR OWN SIGHT....
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