Re: one more complain : wrath of ssbaba satasang?

01-24-2002, 11:03 AM

Dilip,

Could you please keep your opinions of the SSB group OUT OF THIS MAILING
LIST please ?
I understand that you are not happy with them, but I see no reason why you
would want to vent your hostility against them on this mailing list.

Thanks for your consideration !

Girish

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Dilip Raheja wrote:

>
> Amma and others,
>
> there is no other group more screwed up than ssb's group - they are into
black magic, tantra, harassment of others, imposing their guru thru manipulation
of faith, threats, .... thanks to amma and him for giving shelter to those
devotees of ssb. sure they can spend many hours with amma and burn their karma -
not to forget enjoy the beautiful hug and kiss from amma - oh and Bija Mantra
with Amma! My satsang and contact with Ammachi center and some relation with
other better devotees of SSB is diminishing.
>
>
>
> somehow i feel if it was not for those goddamn devotees world would have
been better place but at the same time i thank ssb for being there to undo their
mischiefs as well as to show those screwed up devotees some way.
>
>
>
> I BLAME SATHYA SAI BABA AND HIS DEVOTEES FOR DESTROYING MY PEACE AND
RELATION WITH OTHERS - I RESPECTED HIM FOR ALL MY LIFE BUT THIS IS WHAT I GET
---- They want the 'price' of previous satsangs I had with other groups all over
world in last 20+ years!
>
>
>
> Where are you Amma? OR those same goddamn devotees will come hiding behind
You also, Amma, to tell me why don't I pray to Him also? I RATHER DROP BOTH
AMMA AND SATHYA SAI ---- thanks SSB for taking away all they peace and leaving
me in pieces! .... Presence of those people is nothing but poison .... All the
wrongs have happened in the presence of those people .... I never did those
things in rest of my life!
>
>
>
> I know after reading this email they will threaten and damage my family,
etc....
>
>
>
> Om Amriteshwariye Namah
>
>
>
>
>
> PS:
>
> Peter (from Florida) you wanted to be moderator, right? So this is your
opportunity. Or send me email directly and I'll send you names of people who are
doing all kinds of things right from 3:30am and onwards? Where is that Sanyasin
in Chennai or that Amy Mangru who are behind this evil things (as the word goes
around)?
>
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01-24-2002, 11:20 AM

Dilip -
Please, please, this place is for Amma - not for complaining about other gurus,
or making accusations. Focus on the love of Amma... and please do not put
these thoughts of fear and anger into our group.
Blessings,
Connie
----- Original Message -----
From: Dilip Raheja
To: ammachi (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:09 AM
Subject: [Ammachi] one more complain : wrath of ssbaba satasang?

Amma and others,

there is no other group more screwed up than ssb's group

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01-24-2002, 12:04 PM

Hello
I understand and these matters should be kept out of the Ammachi list but
then last week there were few other email postings .... moreover just last week
due to all those disturbance I couldn't goto San Ramon center + recently I had
not been able to do 108 names of Amma either. Bluntly some of them do come to
San Ramon and/or associate with other trouble makers of ssb groups - causes
significant disturbance and brain-wash. So my email was out of frustration and
lack of Amma - as a request.

[my complain was not against everybody - i still have several good people from
ssb group all over the world and whenever i meet them i'll definately join them
in satsang. it's just a small subset of people who somehow manage to harass me
thru other devotees of any ssb group.]

I WAS HOPING MESSAGE AND METHOD OF LOVE OF AMMA WOULD SPREAD TO THEM ALSO -
sometimes people don't know wwhat kind of damage they are doing unless they have
been told gently as well. We have ammachi.org NOT ammachi.com!!!

You can satisfy an hungry person but cann't satisfy the greedy one!

Once again, there were few postings last week and moreover their influences
were driving me away from AMMA so I had posted my request.

Om Amriteshwariye Namah

PS:
Now don't get any idea, only person who supports me 100% is Amma thru Her
Guidance - none of my friends / groups would offend anybody - most would be even
willing to die for Ahimsa. I believe as per my several prayers to Amma that
"please stop me if I'm on the wrong road".

girishv wrote: Dilip,

Could you please keep your opinions of the SSB group OUT OF THIS MAILING
LIST please ?
I understand that you are not happy with them, but I see no reason why you
would want to vent your hostility against them on this mailing list.

Thanks for your consideration !

Girish

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Dilip Raheja wrote:

>
> Amma and others,
>
> there is no other group more screwed up than ssb's group - they are into black
magic, tantra, harassment of others, imposing their guru thru manipulation of
faith, threats, .... thanks to amma and him for giving shelter to those devotees
of ssb. sure they can spend many hours with amma and burn their karma - not to
forget enjoy the beautiful hug and kiss from amma - oh and Bija Mantra with
Amma! My satsang and contact with Ammachi center and some relation with other
better devotees of SSB is diminishing.
>
>
>
> somehow i feel if it was not for those goddamn devotees world would have been
better place but at the same time i thank ssb for being there to undo their
mischiefs as well as to show those screwed up devotees some way.
>
>
>
> I BLAME SATHYA SAI BABA AND HIS DEVOTEES FOR DESTROYING MY PEACE AND RELATION
WITH OTHERS - I RESPECTED HIM FOR ALL MY LIFE BUT THIS IS WHAT I GET ---- They
want the 'price' of previous satsangs I had with other groups all over world in
last 20+ years!
>
>
>
> Where are you Amma? OR those same goddamn devotees will come hiding behind You
also, Amma, to tell me why don't I pray to Him also? I RATHER DROP BOTH AMMA AND
SATHYA SAI ---- thanks SSB for taking away all they peace and leaving me in
pieces! .... Presence of those people is nothing but poison .... All the wrongs
have happened in the presence of those people .... I never did those things in
rest of my life!
>
>
>
> I know after reading this email they will threaten and damage my family,
etc....
>
>
>
> Om Amriteshwariye Namah
>
>
>
>
>
> PS:
>
> Peter (from Florida) you wanted to be moderator, right? So this is your
opportunity. Or send me email directly and I'll send you names of people who are
doing all kinds of things right from 3:30am and onwards? Where is that Sanyasin
in Chennai or that Amy Mangru who are behind this evil things (as the word goes
around)?
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
>
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>
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01-24-2002, 12:35 PM

hello
just between us: how would you feel if you come to know about-
1. They talk about ammachi group as ammachi.com (business)
2. Some of them try to manipulate the people who have received mantra from amma
3. Some fo them do mischiefs around and later put blame on amma's devotees.
4. Some of them try to prevent other devotees from seeing or coming to meet Amma
or ashram
5. Some of them try to harass our swamis
6. Some of them try to throw dirt in Amma's own pooja room in Kerala
7. Some of them try to put Amma down ... i rather die than to hear or think
those shams
8. Some of them doing real bad tantra on others and putting blame on Amma's
devotees - do you think those others would sit quiet [if one harasses the snake,
it will bite! a true person would make sure that noone gets harassed by those
snake like people]! These SSB people can fight their battle (revenge) somewhere
else without putting dirt on Amma's people. Amma teaches everyone thru love and
strictness - not by goonda-gardi!

....

There are several key centers and key players (of atleast N. California Bay Area
I know of) involved in this dirty game of accusations. How can one respect and
love one's own guru by doing these kind of things -- only Guru's Grace will save
and lift that person up!

----
THEY ARE FOOLISH BECAUSE THEY TRY BUT AREN'T SUCCESSFUL because it's AMMA
everywhere!

girishv wrote: Dilip,

Could you please keep your opinions of the SSB group OUT OF THIS MAILING
LIST please ?
I understand that you are not happy with them, but I see no reason why you
would want to vent your hostility against them on this mailing list.

Thanks for your consideration !

Girish

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Dilip Raheja wrote:

>
> Amma and others,
>
> there is no other group more screwed up than ssb's group - they are into black
magic, tantra, harassment of others, imposing their guru thru manipulation of
faith, threats, .... thanks to amma and him for giving shelter to those devotees
of ssb. sure they can spend many hours with amma and burn their karma - not to
forget enjoy the beautiful hug and kiss from amma - oh and Bija Mantra with
Amma! My satsang and contact with Ammachi center and some relation with other
better devotees of SSB is diminishing.
>
>
>
> somehow i feel if it was not for those goddamn devotees world would have been
better place but at the same time i thank ssb for being there to undo their
mischiefs as well as to show those screwed up devotees some way.
>
>
>
> I BLAME SATHYA SAI BABA AND HIS DEVOTEES FOR DESTROYING MY PEACE AND RELATION
WITH OTHERS - I RESPECTED HIM FOR ALL MY LIFE BUT THIS IS WHAT I GET ---- They
want the 'price' of previous satsangs I had with other groups all over world in
last 20+ years!
>
>
>
> Where are you Amma? OR those same goddamn devotees will come hiding behind You
also, Amma, to tell me why don't I pray to Him also? I RATHER DROP BOTH AMMA AND
SATHYA SAI ---- thanks SSB for taking away all they peace and leaving me in
pieces! .... Presence of those people is nothing but poison .... All the wrongs
have happened in the presence of those people .... I never did those things in
rest of my life!
>
>
>
> I know after reading this email they will threaten and damage my family,
etc....
>
>
>
> Om Amriteshwariye Namah
>
>
>
>
>
> PS:
>
> Peter (from Florida) you wanted to be moderator, right? So this is your
opportunity. Or send me email directly and I'll send you names of people who are
doing all kinds of things right from 3:30am and onwards? Where is that Sanyasin
in Chennai or that Amy Mangru who are behind this evil things (as the word goes
around)?
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Ammachi-unsubscribe (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

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01-24-2002, 12:35 PM

In a message dated 1/24/02 6:09:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ekanath@... writes:

> just between us: how would you feel if you come to know about-

I would feel what I have always felt, which is that Mata Amritanandamayi is
perfectly capable of taking care of Herself; if she needs her devotees to get
involved in situations like these she will stand up and say so.

Moderator, can we please cease this thread?