Bliss or ... wrath?

12-23-2001, 05:10 AM

Om

I had recently written a long letter to Swamin of SSB with respect yet
questioning her why and what am i going thru and why are her own people trying
to put it on her (when they themselves are the culprits). I haven't got the
reply (in a email or as such).

I expereinced one serious 'attack' (what I call it) on me yesterday - so the
subject of this email "Bliss or ...". By the same thing had happened to several
times in past 1 year, everytime it happened within minutes I lost the jobs,
person I'm with for no reason started conflict with me, the opportunity in hand
got lost completely, i pretty much felt unconcious, all of a sudden bad temper,
body shivering, spritual drainage, .... family member taken to hospital, etc....
you got the idea - serious manipulation at the spirit level (effect triggers
down to mental to physical level). My assesment is that was 'evil' influence,
originating from my contact with some of those fake devotees in some way or
other and their aggresive invasion.

I know Ammachi has followers of different groups and that's so nice about it.
Let me first greet Sai Ram to Sai Devotees / Om Namo Shivay to Amma devotees -
or just OM with Love of Krishna to everyone. By the way just last friday I
received invitation from SaiNEWs-owner (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com to join the sai group and
I may join because I have respect for Holy SSB but definately I don't plan to be
part of any of their mandalis I know of. By the way on the average I attended 1
satsang of SSB every 4-6 months in last 12 years because I didn't feel there was
need, moreso I didn't feel presence of that devotion I had experienced in past.
Anyway, that's my interpretation or maturity level - I have respect for everyone
for at least their effort towards but please don't encroach others, put serious
efforts.

Now let me share one more episode of same expereince which result in what I
call teh 'evil' influence on me as well as on surroundings. On Friday night I
attended one other Satsang for first time and I noticed someone with the similar
look alike with the one lady who had started lots of my problems. Then later
next morning around 6am or so, [i'm partially awake after 5am most of the times]
I feel strong influence of same lady and some of her friends on my mind. Later
during prayer I felt presence of mostly bad vibrations from same group. I
started driving towards Shiva - Vishnu temple and on the way I passed by the
houses / shops of some those devotees in Fremont Ardenwood - all of a sudden all
the (whatever was left) positive influence / mood is vanishing. Read carefully
now and tell me what is it "Bliss or ... something else opposite".

I had visited SSB during my teen years (20 years ago) and I sort of had His
impression on my mind. I didn't really attach to that and I had forgotten it for
long until last year. So all of a sudden I start getting visual effect but this
time effect is totally opposite. I'm expereincing spiritual drainage, bad words,
lose of focus on the road (on a rainy day) and later I'm sitting dazed /
unconcious for long time in the Balaji temple with my eyes closed - totally
exhausted - no knowledge of where I'm. It was like someone took away all the
blood from my body and was totally 'asuri' influence. Then pooja started and
slowly I felt revival but it took me 1+ hour to overcome those negative
influences.

Similar presence of 'supposed SSB' has caused me serious damage as mentioned
above, I know it's Not Him but some people playing evil with His vibrations /
Bliss. Our local Bay area groups are directly involved and they have help from
India. So I have CCed this message directly to the Swamin from SSB group I had
talked about several times. I have CCed to Dayamrita Swaimji also ---- Can
someone stop these evil inflences on me and my surroundings. Sometimes I feel
Guru gives Grace to the students but who will remove the Greed and Ego from the
minds of those selfish devotees who would misuse the Grace to terrorize other
new devotees and other spiritual activities.

As per our Hindu scriptues, I understand the place of Guru as God but who
takes responsibility of damages caused by the same devotees who run the centers,
etc...?

What kind of practises are being followed by those SSB devotees? I know there
are quite a few in Ammachi Center also and they want me to pray to SSB also. How
can I pray or keep picture or anything .... except have my deep respect and Love
for Him - because all those externals have caused serious havoc in my life. I
know those same devotees take the ownership of Ammachi and SSB, only to push me
away.

Until three years ago, I used to pray, read scriptures, follow satvik
practises, etc ... I knew there were some mixed personalities around me but I
used to manage well to stay away from them. Then I met Amma in Jun 98 and all my
spiritual practises, life was accelerated until I started encounter those fake
devotees of SSB in our Bay area. Their Greed and Ego tried in vain to manipulate
me. They managed their way to Amma's devotees also and now my dedication with
Amma has been threatened. If I don't want to do 108 names or Lalitha, it should
be my choice. I don't want people to enforce their views on me! These SSB
devotes have gone too far - IS THERE ANYBODY (SANYASI(N), AMMA, SSB) WHO CAN
STOP THOSE NAZIES AND STOP THEM FROM THEIR EVIL PRACTISES.

With Love and Respect for SSB, I conclude why has His memories have been like
"curse" to me, why has His caused me so much destruction, ..... why are Amma
devotees helping those same people of Bay area and other places????????

WHY WHY - IF GURU IS GOD And DISCIPLES / SANYASI(N) ARE CLOSE TO THE GURU -
HOW CAN THEY TOLERATE (OR ENCOURAGE?) THOSE EVIL DUDES? Just message of Love
from all the sources is NOT ENOUGH, direct intervention is required!

OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI

Ekanath

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12-23-2001, 05:16 AM

Om Amriteshwariye Namah

fyi: I have CCed this message to SSB's sanyasin as well as Dayamita
Swami ji.

ONCE AGAIN I'm not interested in joining any of those mandalis of
SSB followers. I have silent respect and love for SSB and effort of
tthose devotees but I don't respect their influences / manipulations
on other devotees or spiritual places.

Om

:ekanath

--- In Ammachi@y..., Dilip Raheja wrote:
>
> Om
>
> I had recently written a long letter to Swamin of SSB with
respect yet questioning her why and what am i going thru and why are
her own people trying to put it on her (when they themselves are the
culprits). I haven't got the reply (in a email or as such).
>
>
>
> I expereinced one serious 'attack' (what I call it) on me
yesterday - so the subject of this email "Bliss or ...". By the same
thing had happened to several times in past 1 year, everytime it
happened within minutes I lost the jobs, person I'm with for no
reason started conflict with me, the opportunity in hand got lost
completely, i pretty much felt unconcious, all of a sudden bad
temper, body shivering, spritual drainage, .... family member taken
to hospital, etc.... you got the idea - serious manipulation at the
spirit level (effect triggers down to mental to physical level). My
assesment is that was 'evil' influence, originating from my contact
with some of those fake devotees in some way or other and their
aggresive invasion.
>
>
>
> I know Ammachi has followers of different groups and that's so
nice about it. Let me first greet Sai Ram to Sai Devotees / Om Namo
Shivay to Amma devotees - or just OM with Love of Krishna to
everyone. By the way just last friday I received invitation from
SaiNEWs-owner@y... to join the sai group and I may join because I
have respect for Holy SSB but definately I don't plan to be part of
any of their mandalis I know of. By the way on the average I attended
1 satsang of SSB every 4-6 months in last 12 years because I didn't
feel there was need, moreso I didn't feel presence of that devotion I
had experienced in past. Anyway, that's my interpretation or maturity
level - I have respect for everyone for at least their effort towards
but please don't encroach others, put serious efforts.
>
>
>
> Now let me share one more episode of same expereince which result
in what I call teh 'evil' influence on me as well as on surroundings.
On Friday night I attended one other Satsang for first time and I
noticed someone with the similar look alike with the one lady who had
started lots of my problems. Then later next morning around 6am or
so, [i'm partially awake after 5am most of the times] I feel strong
influence of same lady and some of her friends on my mind. Later
during prayer I felt presence of mostly bad vibrations from same
group. I started driving towards Shiva - Vishnu temple and on the way
I passed by the houses / shops of some those devotees in Fremont
Ardenwood - all of a sudden all the (whatever was left) positive
influence / mood is vanishing. Read carefully now and tell me what
is it "Bliss or ... something else opposite".
>
> I had visited SSB during my teen years (20 years ago) and I sort
of had His impression on my mind. I didn't really attach to that and
I had forgotten it for long until last year. So all of a sudden I
start getting visual effect but this time effect is totally opposite.
I'm expereincing spiritual drainage, bad words, lose of focus on the
road (on a rainy day) and later I'm sitting dazed / unconcious for
long time in the Balaji temple with my eyes closed - totally
exhausted - no knowledge of where I'm. It was like someone took away
all the blood from my body and was totally 'asuri' influence. Then
pooja started and slowly I felt revival but it took me 1+ hour to
overcome those negative influences.
>
>
>
> Similar presence of 'supposed SSB' has caused me serious damage
as mentioned above, I know it's Not Him but some people playing evil
with His vibrations / Bliss. Our local Bay area groups are directly
involved and they have help from India. So I have CCed this message
directly to the Swamin from SSB group I had talked about several
times. I have CCed to Dayamrita Swaimji also ---- Can someone stop
these evil inflences on me and my surroundings. Sometimes I feel Guru
gives Grace to the students but who will remove the Greed and Ego
from the minds of those selfish devotees who would misuse the Grace
to terrorize other new devotees and other spiritual activities.
>
>
>
> As per our Hindu scriptues, I understand the place of Guru as God
but who takes responsibility of damages caused by the same devotees
who run the centers, etc...?
>
>
>
> What kind of practises are being followed by those SSB devotees?
I know there are quite a few in Ammachi Center also and they want me
to pray to SSB also. How can I pray or keep picture or anything ....
except have my deep respect and Love for Him - because all those
externals have caused serious havoc in my life. I know those same
devotees take the ownership of Ammachi and SSB, only to push me away.
>
>
>
> Until three years ago, I used to pray, read scriptures, follow
satvik practises, etc ... I knew there were some mixed personalities
around me but I used to manage well to stay away from them. Then I
met Amma in Jun 98 and all my spiritual practises, life was
accelerated until I started encounter those fake devotees of SSB in
our Bay area. Their Greed and Ego tried in vain to manipulate me.
They managed their way to Amma's devotees also and now my dedication
with Amma has been threatened. If I don't want to do 108 names or
Lalitha, it should be my choice. I don't want people to enforce their
views on me! These SSB devotes have gone too far - IS THERE ANYBODY
(SANYASI(N), AMMA, SSB) WHO CAN STOP THOSE NAZIES AND STOP THEM FROM
THEIR EVIL PRACTISES.
>
>
>
> With Love and Respect for SSB, I conclude why has His memories
have been like "curse" to me, why has His caused me so much
destruction, ..... why are Amma devotees helping those same people of
Bay area and other places????????
>
>
>
> WHY WHY - IF GURU IS GOD And DISCIPLES / SANYASI(N) ARE CLOSE TO
THE GURU - HOW CAN THEY TOLERATE (OR ENCOURAGE?) THOSE EVIL DUDES?
Just message of Love from all the sources is NOT ENOUGH, direct
intervention is required!
>
>
>
> OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI
>
>
>
> Ekanath
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

12-24-2001, 03:32 AM

> IS THERE ANYBODY (SANYASI(N), AMMA,SSB)
> WHO CAN STOP THOSE NAZIES AND STOP THEM
> FROM THEIR EVIL PRACTISES.

Honestly, if it's really this bad, it seems
like planetary influences/karma.

If you've got money to spend, I'm sure there's
special pujas that you can have performed,
or check with your local temple pundit or the
internet for a "kavach" pendant or yantra like
those sold here:
http://www.vedicstore.com/products.html

But, as Dayamrita suggested to you already,
daily chanting of the 1000 names is also a
remedy for negating evil effects. As a Tantric
practice, you can also chant various "armor"
slokas to provide protection, such as the one
usually chanted with the Chandi Paath/Devi
Mahaatmyam, or the 16 Eternities armor,
the English translation of which is given
here:
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthurs...ra/kavacha.htm

Tom