THOU ART THAT

Questions come up of Sadhana (spiritual practice) and
how to achieve Realization. These show our quest for
Self and the intuition that something lies behind the
personality. Sri Ramana used to say that all deep
thinking people are fascinated by the nature of
consciousness. By deep thinking, Sri Ramana did not
mean necessarily intellectual people but those who had
become aware of the mystery of life, the riddle of
perception and consciousness.

So yes, one should do Sadhana. Whatever mode of
practice people brought to Sri Ramana (Japa, Kirtan,
meditation, pranayama, moderation in food), the sage
would encourage them to continue with that. And if one
was (is) a mature yogi, Sri Ramana may look him
directly in the eye and ask, "what is it that you
conceive Sadhana to be?"

I conceive Sadhana to be.....I conceive Sadhana to
be......I conceive Sadhana to be..........

So the "I" conceives Sadhana to be......can you see
clearly, ...."I" conceives Sadhana to be...What truth
can be expected from this "I" when it goes outwards
and conceptualizes such and such about sadhana.

This is why Sri Ramana would often ask, "Who is this
"I" that conceives such and such." Go to the heart of
the matter. Whatever Sadhana you do, who is doing it?
What is the source of this doing?

When Ganapati Muni fell to young Ramana's feet and
told him that he had done countless mantras and asked
him the meaning of "Tapas", what did Sri Ramana say?
He said something like... if you watch from where the
mantra arises (as you are doing it) and abide in that,
that is "Tapas".

Love to all
Harsha







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--- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Harsha
wrote:
> Questions come up of Sadhana (spiritual practice) and
> how to achieve Realization. These show our quest for
> Self and the intuition that something lies behind the
> personality. Sri Ramana used to say that all deep
> thinking people are fascinated by the nature of
> consciousness. By deep thinking, Sri Ramana did not
> mean necessarily intellectual people but those who had
> become aware of the mystery of life, the riddle of
> perception and consciousness.

Namaste H,

Yes once I mentioned the 'Who am I?', of Ramana's to a Sannyasin and
she said that is the truth. However one has to have a certain amount
of mental maturity to have arrived at that point in sadhana. As you
know the bulk of humanity hasn't. One has only to look at the
derogatory commercials on tv re: Meditation and Yogis to see that.
Sitting there 'Who am I ing' would represent a great laugh to the
pig poets...........ONS..Tony.

Is there something that separates us from the "pig poets"?


--- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Tony OClery" wrote:
> --- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Harsha
> wrote:
> > Questions come up of Sadhana (spiritual practice) and
> > how to achieve Realization. These show our quest for
> > Self and the intuition that something lies behind the
> > personality. Sri Ramana used to say that all deep
> > thinking people are fascinated by the nature of
> > consciousness. By deep thinking, Sri Ramana did not
> > mean necessarily intellectual people but those who had
> > become aware of the mystery of life, the riddle of
> > perception and consciousness.
>
> Namaste H,
>
> Yes once I mentioned the 'Who am I?', of Ramana's to a Sannyasin and
> she said that is the truth. However one has to have a certain amount
> of mental maturity to have arrived at that point in sadhana. As you
> know the bulk of humanity hasn't. One has only to look at the
> derogatory commercials on tv re: Meditation and Yogis to see that.
> Sitting there 'Who am I ing' would represent a great laugh to the
> pig poets...........ONS..Tony.

--- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "John Logan"
wrote:
> Is there something that separates us from the "pig poets"?

Namaste,

Pig poets write about enjoying the senses, not spirituality, as
such. So I would hope something separates whilst we are in
delusion.....ONS..Tony.