Kundalini Shakti

10-08-2003, 05:18 AM

The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva Samhita)
clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but leads to
liberation for the wise".
Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it
Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as
illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything
possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination. This
Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called the
energy of consciousness in manifestation.
When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws into
Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and Completion,
devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self Existent
Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies on
nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for the
whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of
Sat-Chit-Ananda as One's very Being.
Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an
independent entity). It is Real as the Self.
Love to all
Harsha

10-08-2003, 01:47 PM

--- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Harsha wrote:
> The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva
Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but
leads to liberation for the wise".
>
> Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it
Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as
illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything
possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination.
This Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called
the energy of consciousness in manifestation.
>
> When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws
into Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and
Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self
Existent Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies
on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for
the whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of Sat-Chit-
Ananda as One's very Being.
>
> Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an
independent entity). It is Real as the Self.
>
> Love to all
> Harsha
Namaste Harsha,

I agree with you to the Saguna level, or Sakti level but on
liberation according to Ramana it all disappears there is only
Nirguna. So using Kundalini Sakti is not advaita but dvaita or
perhaps visishatadvaita as that is the Ishatadevata........Sat-Chit-
Aananda is also Saguna.............ONS...Tony I hear echos here

10-08-2003, 06:59 PM

Dear Harshaji:

What would we do without you?
You always say it with such beauty and Grace...

....In the scriptures and stotras of ShAktam,
it is very often said that She gives 'excellence of speech'to Her
devotees. In this very sloka (#15) that is what itsays.
Why all this importance to this Grace of the Goddess?...
Thus spake the Paramacharya.
Ps...
Now if we can just get you to format your emails to wrap better.
Good thing you are not incarnate as a woman...
I can just see you trying to wrap a sari :-)
Better to stick to the Grace of the Soundaryalahari
Blessed Be...

LOL,

Joyce

----- Original Message -----
From: Harsha
To: HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: [HarshaSatsangh] Kundalini Shakti
The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva Samhita)
clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but leads to
liberation for the wise".
Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it
Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as
illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything
possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination. This
Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called the
energy of consciousness in manifestation.
When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws into
Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and Completion,
devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self Existent
Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies on
nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for the
whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of
Sat-Chit-Ananda as One's very Being.
Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an
independent entity). It is Real as the Self.
Love to all
Harsha
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10-09-2003, 01:33 AM

--- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Tony OClery"
wrote:
> --- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Harsha
wrote:
> > The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and
Siva
> Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a
fool but
> leads to liberation for the wise".
> >
> > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We
call it
> Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly
translated as
> illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes
anything
> possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination.
> This Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called
> the energy of consciousness in manifestation.
> >
> > When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination
withdraws
> into Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and
> Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of
Self
> Existent Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which
relies
> on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance
for
> the whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of
Sat-Chit-
> Ananda as One's very Being.
> >
> > Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an
> independent entity). It is Real as the Self.
> >
> > Love to all
> > Harsha
> Namaste Harsha,
>
> I agree with you to the Saguna level, or Sakti level but on
> liberation according to Ramana it all disappears there is only
> Nirguna. So using Kundalini Sakti is not advaita but dvaita or
> perhaps visishatadvaita as that is the
Ishatadevata........Sat-Chit-
> Aananda is also Saguna.............ONS...Tony I hear echos here

Only grace. For or against ? Don't waste your energy. An
appearance occurs....your relationship?
Grace, love.
Who does Kundalini appear to?
If All is the Self, then Kundalini too.
Of course.....

Jai Ramana!

))))))))Shawn

10-09-2003, 04:40 AM

--- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Tony OClery" wrote:
> --- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Harsha wrote:
> > The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva
> Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but
> leads to liberation for the wise".
> >
> > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it
> Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as
> illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything
> possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination.
> This Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called
> the energy of consciousness in manifestation.
> >
> > When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws
> into Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and
> Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self
> Existent Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies
> on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for
> the whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of Sat-Chit-
> Ananda as One's very Being.
> >
> > Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an
> independent entity). It is Real as the Self.
> >
> > Love to all
> > Harsha
> Namaste Harsha,
>
> I agree with you to the Saguna level, or Sakti level but on
> liberation according to Ramana it all disappears there is only
> Nirguna. So using Kundalini Sakti is not advaita but dvaita or
> perhaps visishatadvaita as that is the Ishatadevata........Sat-Chit-
> Aananda is also Saguna.............ONS...Tony I hear echos here

hello Tony,

I agree with what Shawn said, but
would love to learn about these:
Nirguna Saguna and Ishatadevata

Karta

10-09-2003, 09:36 AM

SNIP

The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga
> Pradipika and Siva
> > Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini
> "binds a fool but
> > leads to liberation for the wise".
> > >
> > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to
> be so.

The TRANSCENDENTAL knowledge of the SELF is revealed
through the action of the Maha Shakti Kundalini. This
is the only way in which SELF reveals its
transcendental nature.

Love,

michael

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10-10-2003, 12:41 PM

--- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Michael Bowes
wrote:
> SNIP
>
> The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga
> > Pradipika and Siva
> > > Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini
> > "binds a fool but
> > > leads to liberation for the wise".
> > > >
> > > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to
> > be so.
>
> The TRANSCENDENTAL knowledge of the SELF is revealed
> through the action of the Maha Shakti Kundalini. This
> is the only way in which SELF reveals its
> transcendental nature.
>
> michael

Namaste,

This is true in as much as we are Praneaswara or kundalini itself.
The true Self or Nirguna reveals nothing. Most Sages like Ramana
talk mostly to audience at the time so one has to bear that in mind.
Ultimately even Sat-Cit-Ananda, Kundalini Sakti, Saguna Brahman is
an illusion and ultmatately don't exist. Even at Pralaya they are
subsumed in the main. As Ramana says in his theories of creation
piece, on moksha it all never happened...............ONS..Tony.

10-11-2003, 02:21 PM

--- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Tony OClery" wrote:
> --- In HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Michael Bowes
> wrote:
> > SNIP
> >
> > The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga
> > > Pradipika and Siva
> > > > Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini
> > > "binds a fool but
> > > > leads to liberation for the wise".
> > > > >
> > > > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to
> > > be so.
> >
> > The TRANSCENDENTAL knowledge of the SELF is revealed
> > through the action of the Maha Shakti Kundalini. This
> > is the only way in which SELF reveals its
> > transcendental nature.
> >
> > michael
>
> Namaste,
>
> This is true in as much as we are Praneaswara or kundalini itself.
> The true Self or Nirguna reveals nothing. Most Sages like Ramana
> talk mostly to audience at the time so one has to bear that in mind.
> Ultimately even Sat-Cit-Ananda, Kundalini Sakti, Saguna Brahman is
> an illusion and ultmatately don't exist. Even at Pralaya they are
> subsumed in the main. As Ramana says in his theories of creation
> piece, on moksha it all never happened...............ONS..Tony.

thank you Tony,

I will study what you rote, I must
look up all the sanskrit words

Translation is difficult, I tried it
to Hungarian, there all the esoteric literature was indexed during the 50
years of communist regime and words
and meaning were missing all together

Karta