Re: [k-list] Brain Helmet

01-16-2003, 11:51 PM

And further
furthermore
In the immortal words of David Cassidy: I think I love you!
XO,
X

01-17-2003, 04:56 AM

Interesting to note
that when this alignment of consciousness & physical paralysis
occurs to me
I always sense some foreign presence...
Usually in the form of an intruder breaking into
the physical space I am sleeping at.
Dear David,
Fascinating gadget!

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Krishnamurti often mentions this presence in his *Krishnamurti's
Notebook.* He writes: "That presence which ...was there, waiting
patiently, benignly, with great tenderness. It was like the
lightening on a dark night but it was there, penetrating, blissful."
and later: "...woke up in the middle of the night, with the
otherness in the room. It was there with great intensity, not only
filling the room and beyond but it was there deep down within the
brain, so profoundly that it seemed to go through and beyond all
thought, space and time." p. 114
What I have found especially interesting is that what seems to be the
same phenomena of otherness and catalepsy can be felt by different
people as either immensely terrifying or unbelievably ecstatic and
blissful.
This experience sucks
even more so because of the fact
I am literally physically paralyzed
(thanks to the 'genius' of evolutional hard-wiring).
Is it frightening because you feel out of control?
This lovely experience happens regularly to me
once or twice a month.
It happens to me virtually nightly. Amazing stuff. Almost always
blissful, but sometimes there are moments of fear. Is it the same
experience, I wonder?
I know I am not unusual with regard to having these types of experiences.
Over time
I actually figured out what is going on.
The question, though, is what put god in the human brain in the first
place. Or is it that we are all made of god stuff. And why is it
pure pleasure to one and terror to another? And sometimes both

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One of the more interesting things he found
while poking people's brains
(electromagnectically)
is that there is a region in all of our brains
that when stimulated
elicits an experience
that there is an 'other' present in the room.

Furthermore,
I must inform you at this point
that all people poked electromagnetically
with this amazing brain helmet
in the particular region of our brain
that makes us respond to
and experience some imaginary presence
of an 'other'
are also flooded with a sense of fear.
This I find very curious.
It is frightening
to say the least.
But not to some of us. Why I wonder. Is it a different section of
the brain that is activated? or is it how we translate the
experience.
Love, Hillary
I have my own personal theory regarding this
hard-wired button in all of our heads.
It has to do with duality
and the essential
need
an organism in a dualistic environment
must possess in order to survive.
And further
furthermore
I will somehow tie
this intuition of mine
into my regular dream experiences
of dreaming my physical environment
in a state of paralysis
while some 'other' is breaking into my
house as I struggle but can not move.
And further,
further
"On waking this morning, there was that strange immobility of the body
and of the brain; with it came a movement of entering into
unfathomable depths of intensity and of great bliss and there was
that otherness." p. 58

01-17-2003, 10:37 AM

Druout (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
Dear
David,
Fascinating gadget!

)
Yeah, should give the video game companies a run for their money.
What
I have found especially interesting is that what seems to be the same phenomena
of otherness and catalepsy can be felt by different people as either immensely
terrifying or unbelievably ecstatic and blissful.
I don't doubt that.
Is
it frightening because you feel out of control?
The paralysis intersecting with consciousness in and of itself is not so
frightening.
It's the fact that I dream an intruder is breaking into the house while
not being able to move.
It
happens to me virtually nightly. Amazing stuff. Almost always
blissful, but sometimes there are moments of fear. Is it the same
experience, I wonder?
Same neuro-conscious phenomena, yes.
The
question, though, is what put god in the human brain in the first place.
We could start a list on just that topic.

Regardless what anyone feels
inclined to say in response to that query
one should realizefirst that whatever one's response is,
it will always be a myth.
(which is fine as all personal/transpersonal experience is a type of
myth)
Or
is it that we are all made of god stuff.
I'd say stuffing with croutons.
And
why is it pure pleasure to one and terror to another?
Somehow I sense you already know the answer to that one.
It has to do with our reaction to it.
And
sometimes both

)
Fear/pleasure.
Same difference.
all
people poked electromagnetically
with this amazing
brain helmet
in the particular
region of our brain
that makes us
respond to
and experience
some imaginary presence
of an 'other'
are also flooded
with a sense of fear.
This I find very
curious.
I'd imagine some subjects could experience it as blissful.
You seem like a likely candidate.
But
not to some of us. Why I wonder. Is it a different section
of the brain that is activated? or is it how we translate the experience.
I'm not lucid when it happens to me
so I really believe there's an intruder and I can't move.
Were I lucid I sense
it could be experienced as blissful.
I thought about that before.
I suppose one could train oneself to be ready for it
and to recognize the state as such in waking life
by using similar techniques used to
lucid dream.
I lucid dream regularly but it's never fearful
by virtue of the fact that I'm *lucid*.
As a child I always sensed a presence
when I was alone.
I used to think it was spirits
and I'd encounter them in the eyes open/body paralyzed state.
When I experienced spontaneous unitive conscious at 21
it became clear It is just who I am.

Thanx for asking,
David

"On waking this
morning, there was that strange immobility of the body and of the brain;
with it came a movement of entering into unfathomable depths of intensity
and of great bliss and there was that otherness." p. 58