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Old 07-29-2001, 05:54 AM   #1

nierika
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>> Another nonsense is the notion that you can focus on 'your
kundalini and chakras' and make Her rise, as if she were an
insentient form of electricity. <<
Hi Senya :::waving::: I really liked the bit about two cars and a
risen kundalini. Sometimes I wonder at the myriad manifestations of
what Chogyum Trumpa named "spiritual materialism." Enlightenment,
enlightment, who's got the enlightment. Step right up, get your
enlightenment here. Anyhow...hmmm...when Amma is asked about
kundalina (or karma, or a variety of things), she says, "Don't be
bothered about it. Love God; live now." (Hmmm...I feel the beginning
of a rant...oh well, to continue...) This summer, when I was at
retreat with Shree Maa and Swami Saraswati, I heard and saw and
experienced so much. I am still sorting it out. During a discussion
period, Swami talked about kundalina. Now, thinking about that again,
I realize I have heard others (Swami Jyoti, for example) talk about
this in a similar way. Swami said that the image of kundalini resting
at the base of the spine is for convenience, an image to tweek our
remembering, not something to get us involved in self-focused, chakra
spinning, mind bending efforts to do this raising. He said, "Kundalini
is already raised; otherwise we would not be here at all. It is the
Energy that fires all of our engines. The only task is awareness. It
is not kundalini who is asleep. It is we who are." Anyhow, in light
of the words of many, including Ramana Maharshi, our task is always
one of waking up, remembering, coming to awareness. All that we Are
already is. Your ponderings on the topic brought this back to me, so
I share.
Shanti ~ Linda

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Old 07-29-2001, 12:59 PM   #2

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--- In HarshaSatsangh@y..., nierika@a... wrote:
> Senya wrote:
>
> Hi Senya :::waving:::

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Waving back attcha!! )
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Enlightenment, enlightment, who's got
> the enlightment.

**************
Doncha just love it? Like an easter egg hunt...and the "emperor's
new clothes" and alice in wonderland at a mad hatter's teaparty.
while little grey men descend to carry everyone away to a new
paradigm...for a 'close encounter' with God.
**************
"Don't be bothered about it. Love God; live now."
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The first commandment. The other nine are only footnotes.
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(Hmmm...I feel the beginning of a rant...oh well, to continue...)
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I'm chuckling, cause I can so relate....
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Swami said that the image of kundalini resting at the base of
> the spine is for convenience, an image to tweek our remembering,

not
> something to get us involved in self-focused, chakra spinning, mind

bending
> efforts to do this raising.

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Yes!
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He said, "Kundalini is already raised; otherwise
> we would not be here at all.

***************
Exactly! The awareness is something we move into...what is already
there. It is like the TV becoming aware of the plug in the
wall...that if it weren't plugged into...would have no awareness or
life in the first place. We are K. There is nothing that is not K.
But there are surges...like electricity.....that make us VERY aware
of what we are made of. As our body becomes used to it...the surges
feel normal...and we think we have regressed...but, we are just
normalizing until the next surge. Shakti has it all well in hand when
left to her own designs. Except for my first experience, it has been
a very gentle process for me. Relatively speaking. Hand in hand with
deep meditation and other things. Focusing on the One does this very
nicely...it is all that is required. Om-one pointed faith. Om-God.
Ham-sah...So-Ham
*****************

It is the Energy that fires all of our engines.
> The only task is awareness. It is not kundalini who is asleep. It

is we who
> are."

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Perfectly said. It's about changing our perceptions...our senses..
(words are so lame sometimes)
*****************

thanks for sharing....nice to meet you... Namaste. s.

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