Re: Sadhanas and such...

06-20-2001, 08:40 PM

Also, Sri Ramana's recommended sadhana "Who am I?" and Sri
Nisargadatta's sadhana of "just remain with Beingness, prior to
personality" are also speedy "methods" of Realizing the Self.

All sadhanas are variations on the basic sadhana: "Be still." "Just
BE." Every sage recommends a variation on that. Even Zen Buddhism
(zazen, just sitting) is a variation on "Be still. Just Be."

The "point" is to go inward, to focus attention on The Self, and drop
attachments to the world and "externals." In order for that to
happen, one has to observe and be mindful of the obsessive interest
with thought, sense-pleasures, and the attraction/aversion cycle
(automatically and mindlessly moving toward the pleasant and shirking
the unpleasant).

There are many paths and sadhanas, but all of them are a variation
on "Be still." All sadhanas based on this lead to the Self.

All this noted, i think those discussing here are doing so in the
spirit of satsangh. Sadhana doesn't take place on a mailing list,
but in silent introspection and contemplation, in mindfulness and in
sincere interest and desire for Self-Realization.

i submit that interest and sincerity (along with willingness and
surrender) are the deciding factors, if any. Otherwise, "Realization"
may very well just be a matter of destiny, completely acausal and
spontaneous.

Namaste,

Omkara

06-21-2001, 01:50 AM

Hi Omkara,

Yes. I understand your comments as 'the direct approach'
and that some folks 'direct' path is winding.

Ultimately it is the path of 'no distance'.

Love,
james

--- In HarshaSatsangh@y..., "Omkara" wrote:
>
> Also, Sri Ramana's recommended sadhana "Who am I?" and Sri
> Nisargadatta's sadhana of "just remain with Beingness, prior to
> personality" are also speedy "methods" of Realizing the Self.
>
> All sadhanas are variations on the basic sadhana: "Be still." "Just
> BE." Every sage recommends a variation on that. Even Zen Buddhism
> (zazen, just sitting) is a variation on "Be still. Just Be."
>
> The "point" is to go inward, to focus attention on The Self, and
drop
> attachments to the world and "externals." In order for that to
> happen, one has to observe and be mindful of the obsessive interest
> with thought, sense-pleasures, and the attraction/aversion cycle
> (automatically and mindlessly moving toward the pleasant and
shirking
> the unpleasant).
>
> There are many paths and sadhanas, but all of them are a variation
> on "Be still." All sadhanas based on this lead to the Self.
>
> All this noted, i think those discussing here are doing so in the
> spirit of satsangh. Sadhana doesn't take place on a mailing list,
> but in silent introspection and contemplation, in mindfulness and in
> sincere interest and desire for Self-Realization.
>
> i submit that interest and sincerity (along with willingness and
> surrender) are the deciding factors, if any. Otherwise,
"Realization"
> may very well just be a matter of destiny, completely acausal and
> spontaneous.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Omkara