The emergence of the true Man and the True Woman

03-09-2001, 01:48 AM

Dear Harsha,

Just a thought:

For whatever reason, Kundalini Yoga, which in ancient times was a
unified practice to realize the emergence of the True Man and True
Woman (Son of God as Son of Man), became fragmented into a number of
yogas and sects within each yoga.

Now we have different yogas to suit the different approaches, with
teachers vying to prove that one or the other yoga or segment of a
yoga is better and that one or the other religion is better, versus
the more ecumenical approach of Yogi Bhajan, "Your God plus my God
equals our God."

Or, as the Third Zen Patriarch put it "Simply say, when doubts arise 'Not Two'"

The Self is like the Sun reflecting in the moon of the mind. The moon
in turn is reflected in so many vessels of water, large and small.
Those vessels become brighter and less bright as the moon waxes and
wanes. The water in the vessels becomes more and less agitated as
the moon changes position (tides).

As the mind becomes balanced, there is a withdrawal of the attention
of the mind towards its focus on the changing world, such that the
mind begins to be absorbed and reflects the sun purely. The effect
is that the sun of the Self begins to arise in the world, and the use
of the moon of the mind to see recedes from conscious attention, and
all the vessels of water large and small radiate the pure light.

If one combines some Kundalini Yoga sets and kriyas with the reading
of texts and stories about one's Self, one will feel this sense of
the balancing of the field (the reflected self) and single absorption
of the "I" into your True Self.

The emergence of one's Self is really very natural.

For more about this holistic approach to yoga you can look at
http://www.kundalini-matashakti.com/...daliniYoga.doc

which gives a more complete perspective of the original intent and
origins of yoga and its practice, as well as a vision of the
direction that consciousness of mankind is awakening into, where the
Self Realized Being is a natural emergence of one's inherent Truth,
versus something to be acquired or gained. Also refer to articles
and texts found in http://www.nonduality.com/pieter.htm, which
includes the non-dual texts - "Faith Mind" by the Third Zen Patriarch
and Ch 26 of the "Ribhu Gita" where verse 43 reflects this over all
view as well.

This whole view, Tao or way and the exponential synergy of practicing
a number of yogas in an integrated manner can also be found in the
book by Evens-Wentz "Tibetan Yoga and the Secret Doctrines" where
Mahamudra practice of sravana - manana - niddidyasana or hearing -
contemplating - abiding is a prevailing core aspect to all the yogas
presented.

Pieter
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03-09-2001, 03:14 AM

In a message dated 3/9/01 7:38:53 AM Pacific Standard Time,
hluthar@... writes:

<<
For whatever reason, Kundalini Yoga, which in ancient times was a unified
practice to realize the emergence of the True Man and True Woman (Son of God
as Son of Man), became fragmented into a number of yogas and sects within
each yoga.

Now we have different yogas to suit the different approaches, with
teachers vying to prove that one or the other yoga or segment of a yoga is
better and that one or the other religion is better, versus the more
ecumenical approach of Yogi Bhaja >>

Not to be nitpicky about this, ha ha, and l may be misreading the above
statements, but my understanding is that the practice of yoga in lndia was
always fragmented into many different types, sects and traditions. l've never
heard that it was unified in that sense. Of course, all this dates way back
to when nothing was recorded and our knowledge of this period is sketchy, to
say the least.
From Mt Kailash,
jerrysan rinpoche

03-09-2001, 05:34 AM

Thank you Pieter for sharing this. Your vast knowledge of the
spiritual literature and the depth of experience emphasizing a
unifying theme behind different religious traditions is much
appreciated.

Harsha

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emergence of the true Man and the True Woman
Dear Harsha,

Just a thought:

For whatever reason, Kundalini Yoga, which in ancient times was a
unified practice to realize the emergence of the True Man and True
Woman (Son of God as Son of Man), became fragmented into a number of
yogas and sects within each yoga.

Now we have different yogas to suit the different approaches, with
teachers vying to prove that one or the other yoga or segment of a
yoga is better and that one or the other religion is better, versus
the more ecumenical approach of Yogi Bhajan, "Your God plus my God
equals our God."

Or, as the Third Zen Patriarch put it "Simply say, when doubts arise 'Not Two'"

The Self is like the Sun reflecting in the moon of the mind. The moon
in turn is reflected in so many vessels of water, large and small.
Those vessels become brighter and less bright as the moon waxes and
wanes. The water in the vessels becomes more and less agitated as
the moon changes position (tides).

As the mind becomes balanced, there is a withdrawal of the attention
of the mind towards its focus on the changing world, such that the
mind begins to be absorbed and reflects the sun purely. The effect
is that the sun of the Self begins to arise in the world, and the use
of the moon of the mind to see recedes from conscious attention, and
all the vessels of water large and small radiate the pure light.

If one combines some Kundalini Yoga sets and kriyas with the reading
of texts and stories about one's Self, one will feel this sense of
the balancing of the field (the reflected self) and single absorption
of the "I" into your True Self.

The emergence of one's Self is really very natural.

For more about this holistic approach to yoga you can look at
http://www.kundalini-matashakti.com/...daliniYoga.doc

which gives a more complete perspective of the original intent and
origins of yoga and its practice, as well as a vision of the
direction that consciousness of mankind is awakening into, where the
Self Realized Being is a natural emergence of one's inherent Truth,
versus something to be acquired or gained. Also refer to articles
and texts found in http://www.nonduality.com/pieter.htm, which
includes the non-dual texts - "Faith Mind" by the Third Zen Patriarch
and Ch 26 of the "Ribhu Gita" where verse 43 reflects this over all
view as well.

This whole view, Tao or way and the exponential synergy of practicing
a number of yogas in an integrated manner can also be found in the
book by Evens-Wentz "Tibetan Yoga and the Secret Doctrines" where
Mahamudra practice of sravana - manana - niddidyasana or hearing -
contemplating - abiding is a prevailing core aspect to all the yogas
presented.

Pieter