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The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 06:03 AM
----Original Message-----
From: Greg Goode [mailto:goode@...]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 12:42 PM
To: NondualitySalon (AT) onelist (DOT) com; NondualitySalon (AT) onelist (DOT) com
Subject: Re: [NondualitySalon] Bruce/RE: Tim/Petros/Re: Mikaire
Harsha and Judi,
Let's go into the guru production business. We know what sells. We know
who's buying. We know how to package. We know the contacts. We probably
know people in various media businesses. Swami Timananda can be first one
out of the box!
Harsha: Good Idea Greg. And you are wise and funny! Glad to see you got
your thinking hat on today! :-) We should market our Swami and give Him
various titles, at least one a month (despite His strong protestations, or
gentle acceptance or whatever - which would be publicized in our infomercial
to show His humility).
The great Swami (Selected from the Swami contest to be held) would have to
often insist that He is really no body at all and knows absolutely nothing.
Paradoxically though, at other times, He would have to openly declare that
He is the Primordial Being and should be worshipped.
If scandals with Him and His female disciples become public, the usual
logic that Swami is beyond societal norms and simply beyond and even more
beyond (far out and far gone) would be appropriate, as it has worked well
for other gurus. We just need to set the rules now for the Swami contest (of
course, the whole thing will be fixed - who are we kidding here :-). Once
the Swami is selected, the publicity machine could go in full swing. The
other gurus will be left in the dust.
Can we get Richard Gere or someone famous to become a disciple. That
would help! Mary Tyler Moore came to my yoga class a few times couple of
decades ago, but we never really got to know each other and so have not kept
in touch. Any other bright ideas will be welcome. :-).
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 07:16 AM
Harsha and Judi,
Let's go into the guru production business. We know what sells. We know
who's buying. We know how to package. We know the contacts. We probably know
people in various media businesses. Swami Timananda can be first one out of the
box!
Harsha: Good Idea Greg. And you are wise and funny! Glad to see you got your
thinking hat on today! :-) We should market our Swami and give Him various
titles, at least one a month (despite His strong protestations, or gentle
acceptance or whatever - which would be publicized in our infomercial to show
His humility).
The great Swami (Selected from the Swami contest to be held) would have to
often insist that He is really no body at all and knows absolutely nothing.
Paradoxically though, at other times, He would have to openly declare that He is
the Primordial Being and should be worshipped.
If scandals with Him and His female disciples become public, the usual logic
that Swami is beyond societal norms and simply beyond and even more beyond (far
out and far gone) would be appropriate, as it has worked well for other gurus.
We just need to set the rules now for the Swami contest (of course, the whole
thing will be fixed - who are we kidding here :-). Once the Swami is selected,
the publicity machine could go in full swing. The other gurus will be left in
the dust.
Can we get Richard Gere or someone famous to become a disciple. That would
help! Mary Tyler Moore came to my yoga class a few times couple of decades ago,
but we never really got to know each other and so have not kept in touch. Any
other bright ideas will be welcome. :-).
ivan: Yes, and we must keep a list going on, where we must discuss
the qualities of diferent Swamis and Teachers, their habits, and way
of life. But at the same time we must not forget to through in the habitual
"donīt follow anybody stuff " , cos thatīs suposed to be said....they all
say it.
And letīs not forget the books list, cos you are all gods, but if you read
them,
youīll become even more holly. After all it takes lots of time to get out of
time!! LOL LOL LOL
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 07:21 AM
>
> Harsha: Good Idea Greg. And you are wise and funny! Glad to see you got
>your thinking hat on today! :-) We should market our Swami and give Him
>various titles, at least one a month (despite His strong protestations, or
>gentle acceptance or whatever - which would be publicized in our
infomercial
>to show His humility).
>
> The great Swami (Selected from the Swami contest to be held) would have
to
>often insist that He is really no body at all and knows absolutely nothing.
>Paradoxically though, at other times, He would have to openly declare that
>He is the Primordial Being and should be worshipped.
>
> If scandals with Him and His female disciples become public, the usual
>logic that Swami is beyond societal norms and simply beyond and even more
>beyond (far out and far gone) would be appropriate, as it has worked well
>for other gurus. We just need to set the rules now for the Swami contest
(of
>course, the whole thing will be fixed - who are we kidding here :-). Once
>the Swami is selected, the publicity machine could go in full swing. The
>other gurus will be left in the dust.
>
> Can we get Richard Gere or someone famous to become a disciple. That
>would help! Mary Tyler Moore came to my yoga class a few times couple of
>decades ago, but we never really got to know each other and so have not
kept
>in touch. Any other bright ideas will be welcome. :-).
>
Hey, if you want moviestars, it helps to recognize them as reincarnated
lamas. Put someone in charge of the research for this, so we get authentic
names from the past. (Unlike Madame Blavatsky who appears to have made them
up, people expect the real thing nowadays.) In order to do my share for the
cause, I volunteer for the disciple scandal, regardless of who is chosen for
Swami. If that ain't devotion, what is??
Glo
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 07:31 AM
At 10:16 AM 9/20/99 , ivan wrote:
>ivan: Yes, and we must keep a list going on, where we must discuss
>>the qualities of diferent Swamis and Teachers, their habits, and way
>>of life. But at the same time we must not forget to through in the habitual
>>"donīt follow anybody stuff " , cos thatīs suposed to be said....they all
>>say it.
>>And letīs not forget the books list, cos you are all gods, but if you
>>read them,
>>youīll become even more holly. After all it takes lots of time to get out
>>of time!! LOL LOL LOL
Yes, we can't forget the insistence upon telling people to be
independent. We don't want our Swamis to be too easily accused of
cultishness. Yet their hints to "follow me and my way" must be stronger,
though indirect. We can tell the aspirants not to read books, yet tell
them of the ageless wisdom to be found in the world's scriptures.
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 07:39 AM
At 10:21 AM 9/20/99 , Gloria Lee wrote:
Hey, if you want moviestars, it helps to recognize them as reincarnated
>lamas. Put someone in charge of the research for this, so we get authentic
>names from the past. (Unlike Madame Blavatsky who appears to have made them
>up, people expect the real thing nowadays.) In order to do my share for the
>cause, I volunteer for the disciple scandal, regardless of who is chosen for
>Swami. If that ain't devotion, what is??
Is Petros on this list? If so, I'd nominate him to find celebrities and
movie stars to use as reincarnations and devotees. I'll volunteer to write
the PR flyers and the web page.
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 08:10 AM
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Goode <goode@...>
To: HarshaSatsangh (AT) onelist (DOT) com <HarshaSatsangh (AT) onelist (DOT) com>;
HarshaSatsangh (AT) onelist (DOT) com <HarshaSatsangh (AT) onelist (DOT) com>
Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [HarshaSatsangh] The Swami Contest!
>At 10:21 AM 9/20/99 , Gloria Lee wrote:
>
>Hey, if you want moviestars, it helps to recognize them as reincarnated
>>lamas. Put someone in charge of the research for this, so we get authentic
>>names from the past. (Unlike Madame Blavatsky who appears to have made
them
>>up, people expect the real thing nowadays.) In order to do my share for
the
>>cause, I volunteer for the disciple scandal, regardless of who is chosen
for
>>Swami. If that ain't devotion, what is??
>
>
>Is Petros on this list? If so, I'd nominate him to find celebrities and
>movie stars to use as reincarnations and devotees. I'll volunteer to write
>the PR flyers and the web page.
Let's just skip reality all together and go for a fabricated web page, its
kinda a tabloid religion anyway. Our swami can be a reclusive hermit who is
never seen in person. We who are his followers may or may not have actually
been allowed into his presence, but we can all make up very moving accounts
of the effects and write up his "messages" for the web page.
Glo
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 09:42 AM
In a message dated 9/20/99 6:05:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
hluthar@... writes:
<< Harsha and Judi,
Let's go into the guru production business. We know what sells. We know
who's buying. We know how to package. We know the contacts. We probably
know people in various media businesses. Swami Timananda can be first one
out of the box!
Harsha: Good Idea Greg. And you are wise and funny! Glad to see you got
your thinking hat on today! :-) We should market our Swami and give Him
various titles, at least one a month (despite His strong protestations, or
gentle acceptance or whatever - which would be publicized in our infomercial
to show His humility).
The great Swami (Selected from the Swami contest to be held) would have to
often insist that He is really no body at all and knows absolutely nothing.
Paradoxically though, at other times, He would have to openly declare that
He is the Primordial Being and should be worshipped.
If scandals with Him and His female disciples become public, the usual
logic that Swami is beyond societal norms and simply beyond and even more
beyond (far out and far gone) would be appropriate, as it has worked well
for other gurus. We just need to set the rules now for the Swami contest (of
course, the whole thing will be fixed - who are we kidding here :-). Once
the Swami is selected, the publicity machine could go in full swing. The
other gurus will be left in the dust.
Can we get Richard Gere or someone famous to become a disciple. That
would help! Mary Tyler Moore came to my yoga class a few times couple of
decades ago, but we never really got to know each other and so have not kept
in touch. Any other bright ideas will be welcome. :-).
>>
Dear Greg:
Not only is this a great idea, but we can also produce and direct the Movie
of the Life of the Swami, and then, as a much later follow-up, the Movie that
Reveals the Secret Creation of the Swami...sure to create yet another wave of
controversy and intense public interest in all things related to His
Beyondedness.
I am willing to throw my Fez into the ring, my credentials as a "deep
thinker" "wit" and "half wit" being, I believe, unquestioned.
However, we might need to come up with some real good explanation for my
olive complexion as opposed to more traditional Eastern tones. Ah, perhaps I
was simply struck by the Divine Illumination as I sat regarding the shoes of
one of the great Yogi Sages or someone. If they were boots, all the better,
since I am a "Bootist" anyway.
I think that I agree with Greg that controversies and "shocking affairs" must
be staged and arranged as timed events whenever public attention seems to
drift away from the Guru. It is also very possible to create linkages with
these many nubile young ladies with opposing groups and factions, in order to
plant the seed (no pun intended...oh sure it was!) that they "seduced" the
Great One ("GO" one letter short of God...the "Great One") has a nice power
to it. Mahatanji...the "Great One!" He's the Real Thing. Things GO better
with GO. GO for it! Ah, the possibilities are truly endless.
Since I have worked on successful Congressional campaigns drafting media ads
and ideas, I think that I can contribute a great deal to this team. Consider
me an inside insider.
It is also important to have a sensational "public introduction"
of the Great One. He must have spent 30+ years in obscurity...wandering
deserts or malls...seeking the answer. Now he has found it. Instead of the
Tao, he only talks about "IT."
He's the "It Guy." I think healing sick people is a bit passe in this day of
wonder drugs, religious crusades, etc., but raising the dead still gets some
attention. So, we arrange to have a clinically dead person there at the
Public Unveiling and the Great One
merely breathes on the body and it begins to slowly show Brain wave, then EKG
activity. With the right doctors and equipment, this is easily arranged, but
you might need a good yogi to play the part of the "dead one" just so that no
outward bodily motion can be discerned. If possible, he should have some
Siddhi abilities and piercing his hand or arm with a needle should be
possible and clearly shown to the audience, with no bleeding. If we can get
the same doctors to sign a death certificate a day earlier, even better.
The Great One should also be able to recognize the "true identities" of
complete strangers, from past life memory. He will embrace them tearfully,
"Oh my dear Sister Vajnadani!" he might exclaim.
We could also easily make a robe or Sari that could have a very high voltage
electrostatic generator built into it (very miniature is now possible) with a
discharge path available to the Swami, via one sleeve and a hidden switch in
the opposite sleeve. Then, he could discharge foot long visible sparks with
his outstretched arm and finger to things such as metal statues, objects, and
even people as a powerful version of Shaktipat! I think he would best have a
reasonable length finger nail on that index finger to minimize the "zap"
effect to himself. He could also hold his palm over someone's head and
cause their hair to stand on end. Very good visual proof of his enlightened
powers.
Later, some crazed fanatics should attempt to kill him. He could be rushed
to a private hospital...and slowly recover from what doctors describe as
"certainly fatal wounds" He forgives the would be assassins and they are
overcome with remorse and become devout followers.
We must also think of some endearing, human habit or pass time for the Great
One...such as collecting thimbles, etc., so that devotees will have something
to Search For and send to the Guru for blessings. Thimbles are cute, but
have so little real value...maybe hummels would be better, or better yet,
rare coins. Since he only enjoys collecting them, no one could accuse him of
materiality...he is simply performing the devout service of removing these
distractions from the ignorant, materialistic, greedy and unenlightened.
Also, a series of books, of his teachings. "The Great One Speaks"
followed by dozens of books with the GO speaking about every other religion
or sect on Earth. It will appeal to someone, eventually. He must reveal
some "secret" core belief or mystery about each religion and sect.
Blessings
Love,
Zenbob
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 10:06 AM
In a message dated 9/20/99 7:14:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
glee@... writes:
<< Hey, if you want moviestars, it helps to recognize them as reincarnated
lamas. Put someone in charge of the research for this, so we get authentic
names from the past. (Unlike Madame Blavatsky who appears to have made them
up, people expect the real thing nowadays.) In order to do my share for the
cause, I volunteer for the disciple scandal, regardless of who is chosen for
Swami. If that ain't devotion, what is??
>>
Dear Gloria:
Glad I am not the only devoted volunteer for this project! I applaud your
self sacrifice and dedication.
I totally agree with the need for prior dedicated research. Past life proofs
are so much easier to discover when they have been thoroughly worked out in
advance.
The Guru, who has never been to place "X" can insist that there is a holy
relic buried there...(of course this has been researched in advance, and
hopefully we have some follower locate the relic there some years before
Swami if publicly recognized. The power of this method is the sheer audacity
of it. People will believe the fabulous rather than the mundane because the
mundane will be too audacious, well planned and industrious!
Blessings
Love,
Zenbob
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 10:27 AM
In a message dated 9/20/99 8:03:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
glee@... writes:
<< Let's just skip reality all together and go for a fabricated web page, its
kinda a tabloid religion anyway. Our swami can be a reclusive hermit who is
never seen in person. We who are his followers may or may not have actually
been allowed into his presence, but we can all make up very moving accounts
of the effects and write up his "messages" for the web page.
>>
Dear Gloria:
This is effective as a sort of "Burma Shave" commercial venture, with many
signs leading to the Guru, but it is useful only as a build up, just one
phase in the entire planned assault on society.
Done well, it could alter an entire generation's consciousness actually and
truly. If the Guru is not authentic, who can say what is authentic or not if
it gets results? Maybe Jesus at the last moment protested, "Hey, I am just
an actor that the Essenes hired to play the part of the Messiah...I am not
really the Messiah!" No disrespect intended...it is merely an example.
Blessings
Love,
Zenbob
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 03:12 PM
At 04:42 PM 9/20/99 , ZEN2WRK@... wrote:
Wow, Zenbob, you've got it all mapped out! Did you mention a lineage? We
can come up with something ancient, obscure and mysterious, impossible to
verify or disprove. The East is beyond vast, and certainly has what we'd
need.
Then there's the costume. Long hair is a must. White is pretty good - in
the West it symbolizes purity, and also attracts lots of attention. We can
get white sneakers and a bomber jacket for Winter and white rollerblades
for Summer ("Hey, SwamijiMahaJiGuruJi is just a regular gal,"), along with
the requisite white robes, sandals, kirtan, etc.
Failing white, it must be ochre or royal purple.
Then the launching party. SwamijiMahaJiGuruJi can be discovered in very
humble circumstances and be catapulted to fame. I've seen machinations
like this happen before, with most onlookers and devotees unaware of the
invisible hand behind the scenes.
If it's Tim or Gloria, we'll probably need dialogue coaching, because a
mainstream American accent is not very impressive or authoritative. I can
coach on an Indian or Japanese accent.
If we do a website, it must be done with very good and subdued taste, and
be sensational without appearing to TRY to be sensational. We don't want
accusations of egotism to fly about too soon.
What else?
--Greg
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-20-1999, 04:18 PM
Greg Goode wrote:
> If we do a website, it must be done with very good and subdued taste, and
> be sensational without appearing to TRY to be sensational. We don't want
> accusations of egotism to fly about too soon.
>
> What else?
Well, if this hasn't already been mentioned, for sure, we'll need a live video
cam
following every non-move of our SwamijiMahaJiGuruJi. In the vein of "The
Truman Show," I can see the suspense building over weeks, months, or even
years with viewers anticipating the Spiritual Mellow Dramas unfolding
day-to-day.
And why not a little egotism flying around, adds some spice to the stew.
Just as Sufi masters will act arrogant as a teaching tool, our
SwamijiMahaJiGuruJi
can do likewise as a teaching technique.
There wouldn't be any shortage of sponsors and all the monies could go to
ending hunger, education in birth control, family planning, sustainable
agriculture.
Raven
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>
> --Greg
>
> > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. The Radical Truth is Radiance
of Awareness. It is Total Independence and Ever Present. The Truth needs no
psychological or spiritual crutches. It needs no philosophy, no religion, no
explanation, no teaching, and no teacher, and yet It is always their support. A
true devotee relishes in the Truth. The Truth of Self-Knowledge which is Pure
Intelligence. Welcome all to HarshaSatsangha.
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-21-1999, 06:55 AM
Life has no need to separate itself into authentic and non authentic
teachers. It is only the mind that seeks proof of authenticity. When we can
just accept life as it is, a totality, then all and everything is a
legitimate teacher, teaching and responding precisely to what needs to be
understood, taking advantage of the available capacity to understand at a
given moment.
There is only life teaching life. There is only life understanding life. My
teacher is an authentic teacher, only when my mind has qualified him as
such. Thank heavens Life doesn't care about my qualifications, because it
teaches through every available resource.
With love,
Mira
*Mirror*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
from: ZEN2WRK@...
>
> In a message dated 9/20/99 8:03:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> glee@... writes:
>
> << Let's just skip reality all together and go for a fabricated web page,
its
> kinda a tabloid religion anyway. Our swami can be a reclusive hermit who
is
> never seen in person. We who are his followers may or may not have
actually
> been allowed into his presence, but we can all make up very moving
accounts
> of the effects and write up his "messages" for the web page.
> >>
>
> Dear Gloria:
>
> This is effective as a sort of "Burma Shave" commercial venture, with many
> signs leading to the Guru, but it is useful only as a build up, just one
> phase in the entire planned assault on society.
> Done well, it could alter an entire generation's consciousness actually
and
> truly. If the Guru is not authentic, who can say what is authentic or not
if
> it gets results? Maybe Jesus at the last moment protested, "Hey, I am
just
> an actor that the Essenes hired to play the part of the Messiah...I am not
> really the Messiah!" No disrespect intended...it is merely an example.
>
> Blessings
> Love,
>
> Zenbob
>
> > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. The Radical Truth is
Radiance of Awareness. It is Total Independence and Ever Present. The Truth
needs no psychological or spiritual crutches. It needs no philosophy, no
religion, no explanation, no teaching, and no teacher, and yet It is always
their support. A true devotee relishes in the Truth. The Truth of
Self-Knowledge which is Pure Intelligence. Welcome all to HarshaSatsangha.
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-22-1999, 07:41 AM
In a message dated 9/20/99 4:17:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
RavenMcCloud@... writes:
<< There wouldn't be any shortage of sponsors and all the monies could go to
ending hunger, education in birth control, family planning, sustainable
agriculture.
>>
Zenbob
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-25-1999, 06:32 AM
In a message dated 9/20/99 3:13:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, goode@...
writes:
<< If it's Tim or Gloria, we'll probably need dialogue coaching, because a
mainstream American accent is not very impressive or authoritative. I can
coach on an Indian or Japanese accent.
If we do a website, it must be done with very good and subdued taste, and
be sensational without appearing to TRY to be sensational. We don't want
accusations of egotism to fly about too soon.
>>
Dear Greg:
Very observant, as always Greg! Yes, the accent would be a problem, except
that Swami Gloria has chosen silence and restful repose as her modus
operandi. As her venerated and chosen mouth piece, I am blessed with a
profusion of both many languages, Japanese, Russian, French, German and a
smattering of Hindi and Urdu, but best of all, capable of adopting accents,
brogues and strange verbal affectations at the drop of a turban.
Since most of my words will be in printed form, subject to rigorous
translation and grammatical checking, I think we need not have too many fears
on this area. Since we have now adopted the "Swami Ultime Thule by Assertion
Tradition" (Swami Gloria merely asserts that I am the Regent and Voice of the
Swami, and I have so asserted the Role of Protector of the Faith to Miraji,
and other Esteemed Positions to follow) it therefore follows that Swami
Gloria's lineage must be one of Assertion by her Root Gurus. As you say,
obscure, but historically verifiable is best. Someone in the Himalayas must
have said something about "inheriting Glory or to seek Glory in its human
form" and that would be more than close enough to be used as the Words of
Assertion to imbue Swami Gloria with the Lineal Blessing.
More important, in my humble (as is required) opinion, is the future
discovery of Swami Gloria's Sacred Relics buried somewhere in the Mysterious
East...hopefully in the Himalayas somewhere. If we could arrange for a trip
where Swami Gloria gets to point the way with her sacred walking stick and is
then overcome with emotion upon seeing her relics...(and we could borrow from
the Tibetan tradition and have two or three choices of relic items to choose
from...3 shin bones, 3 arm bones, 3 jaw bones and three personal items,
flute, or incense bowl or mala beads) and then select the authentic ones from
the batch. She should increase the drama by being careful and painstaking,
even touching and handling one incense bowl as if it might be the one, but
then setting it aside and mumbling "Belonged to Sri Gunjakoot..." or somesuch
tearful memory, then finally, triumphantly for the video cameras to see, she
chooses the last of her items...causing great emotional outpouring and
humbling by any of the native Priests that are there as expert witnesses.
By documenting everything, we create the history as we go, and have available
a rich archive of movie and special program footage at all times. Devotees
love to buy photos and special programs of their Beloved Spiritual Leader,
and Swami Gloria will make a great thing of desiring to limit
"commercialization" of her image, or "idolatry" but in order to please her
followers, will make these items available in LIMITED NUMBERS directly
through this organization only. We could make a big deal of registering each
item, registering each buyer and keeping a data base, where they would need
to explain any duplicate purchases, before they could be approved. This
would create a frenzy of desire on the part of collectors, raise the value of
such items immediately and of course, create the demand that Swami has so
clearly expressed an aversion for. We succeed if we fail.
Swami should also begin her lessons or talks on the Problems of Sex in the
Western World...chiding people for always talking and thinking about Sex!
She should reveal herself, (tastefully) and ask who would dare to imagine her
as an object of sexual imagination? She could then give very serious
instruction on Tantra and how Kundalini can eventually liberate one from such
unhealthy obsessions. "By doing sexual postures, one need never be obsessed
with Sex again!" or some such. Always aim the goal at the point of
transcending mere Sex, and achieving spiritual union...but in the end, most
Western people will be in a flurry of interest and titillation over the "Sex
parts."
Gosh, Greg, this is so easy...I feel delighted by the entire aspect of
creating an ongoing Swami Generating Society.
I think we will need a publicist or information officer, So, I am naming you
the Divine Bridge to Knowledge, and Envoy to the Media. We will coordinate
all efforts with Harsha, Swami Gloria and Miraji, et al., in order to prepare
the Way.
Perhaps you could rough out a preliminary announcement/press release for
future release regarding the discovery of Swami Gloria? We need to bury some
relics in advance, so let's not be concerned too much about details, just yet.
Sai Ram! Sat Nam! In Excelsis Gloria!
Blessings
Love,
Zenbabaji
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-25-1999, 02:16 PM
>From: ZEN2WRK@...
>
>
>snip
it therefore follows that Swami
>Gloria's lineage must be one of Assertion by her Root Gurus. As you say,
>obscure, but historically verifiable is best. Someone in the Himalayas
must
>have said something about "inheriting Glory or to seek Glory in its human
>form" and that would be more than close enough to be used as the Words of
>Assertion to imbue Swami Gloria with the Lineal Blessing.
Sri Zenbabaji,
Ahem, My Beloved Disciple seeks a Lineal Blessing when I was named by none
other than Sri Harshaji??
Perhaps you do refer to some previous incarnation merely with regard to the
discovery of relics, however the present lineage is quite well known and
established already as it is. It may be discovered by anyone who reads these
very archives. It is the true greatness of the secret teachings of Harshaji
which has yet to be revealed to the world. That is also why it is assumed
that the major disciples have been drawn here - to serve yet once again -
and all positions are being chosen from among this group. Fortunately, I
have kept files from the early days which include the secret, initiatory
teachings. Tastefully small books may be made from this material for
publication.
Please do not consider my occasional comments on the overall plan to be in
any way critical, my dear one. Be assured that I watch over you. I leave
the commercial aspects in your hands, and it would be well to prepare as you
suggest beforehand.
Om Shabbi Poori Me,
(Mira's brilliance shines here. So many will identify with the poverty of
ignorance, which we come to dispel, yet as well to recognize that the
spiritual poverty and simplicity of truth requires no superfulous
knowledge.)
Peaceful Rest to you and your foot,
Swami Gloria
Gloria
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-25-1999, 02:27 PM
I dont know who all participated in this message, so I wont bother to quote
any names, but I can see that I am getting overworked here and I want to
know when I will get a raise.
I hereby propose some mayor investments in Switzerland for Swami Gloria, for
I feel responsible to certify the continuity of this operation, and since I
am Protector of the Faith, I am the only one that can be trusted with these
kind of operations. But of course we will have to discuss my commissions
first.
Protector of the Faith
Miraji
From: ZEN2WRK@...
>
> In a message dated 9/20/99 3:13:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, goode@...
> writes:
>
> << If it's Tim or Gloria, we'll probably need dialogue coaching, because a
> mainstream American accent is not very impressive or authoritative. I
can
> coach on an Indian or Japanese accent.
>
> If we do a website, it must be done with very good and subdued taste, and
> be sensational without appearing to TRY to be sensational. We don't want
> accusations of egotism to fly about too soon.
> >>
> Dear Greg:
>
> Very observant, as always Greg! Yes, the accent would be a problem,
except
> that Swami Gloria has chosen silence and restful repose as her modus
> operandi. As her venerated and chosen mouth piece, I am blessed with a
> profusion of both many languages, Japanese, Russian, French, German and a
> smattering of Hindi and Urdu, but best of all, capable of adopting
accents,
> brogues and strange verbal affectations at the drop of a turban.
>
> Since most of my words will be in printed form, subject to rigorous
> translation and grammatical checking, I think we need not have too many
fears
> on this area. Since we have now adopted the "Swami Ultime Thule by
Assertion
> Tradition" (Swami Gloria merely asserts that I am the Regent and Voice of
the
> Swami, and I have so asserted the Role of Protector of the Faith to
Miraji,
> and other Esteemed Positions to follow) it therefore follows that Swami
> Gloria's lineage must be one of Assertion by her Root Gurus. As you say,
> obscure, but historically verifiable is best. Someone in the Himalayas
must
> have said something about "inheriting Glory or to seek Glory in its human
> form" and that would be more than close enough to be used as the Words of
> Assertion to imbue Swami Gloria with the Lineal Blessing.
>
> More important, in my humble (as is required) opinion, is the future
> discovery of Swami Gloria's Sacred Relics buried somewhere in the
Mysterious
> East...hopefully in the Himalayas somewhere. If we could arrange for a
trip
> where Swami Gloria gets to point the way with her sacred walking stick and
is
> then overcome with emotion upon seeing her relics...(and we could borrow
from
> the Tibetan tradition and have two or three choices of relic items to
choose
> from...3 shin bones, 3 arm bones, 3 jaw bones and three personal items,
> flute, or incense bowl or mala beads) and then select the authentic ones
from
> the batch. She should increase the drama by being careful and
painstaking,
> even touching and handling one incense bowl as if it might be the one, but
> then setting it aside and mumbling "Belonged to Sri Gunjakoot..." or
somesuch
> tearful memory, then finally, triumphantly for the video cameras to see,
she
> chooses the last of her items...causing great emotional outpouring and
> humbling by any of the native Priests that are there as expert witnesses.
>
> By documenting everything, we create the history as we go, and have
available
> a rich archive of movie and special program footage at all times.
Devotees
> love to buy photos and special programs of their Beloved Spiritual Leader,
> and Swami Gloria will make a great thing of desiring to limit
> "commercialization" of her image, or "idolatry" but in order to please her
> followers, will make these items available in LIMITED NUMBERS directly
> through this organization only. We could make a big deal of registering
each
> item, registering each buyer and keeping a data base, where they would
need
> to explain any duplicate purchases, before they could be approved. This
> would create a frenzy of desire on the part of collectors, raise the value
of
> such items immediately and of course, create the demand that Swami has so
> clearly expressed an aversion for. We succeed if we fail.
>
> Swami should also begin her lessons or talks on the Problems of Sex in the
> Western World...chiding people for always talking and thinking about Sex!
> She should reveal herself, (tastefully) and ask who would dare to imagine
her
> as an object of sexual imagination? She could then give very serious
> instruction on Tantra and how Kundalini can eventually liberate one from
such
> unhealthy obsessions. "By doing sexual postures, one need never be
obsessed
> with Sex again!" or some such. Always aim the goal at the point of
> transcending mere Sex, and achieving spiritual union...but in the end,
most
> Western people will be in a flurry of interest and titillation over the
"Sex
> parts."
>
> Gosh, Greg, this is so easy...I feel delighted by the entire aspect of
> creating an ongoing Swami Generating Society. 
>
> I think we will need a publicist or information officer, So, I am naming
you
> the Divine Bridge to Knowledge, and Envoy to the Media. We will
coordinate
> all efforts with Harsha, Swami Gloria and Miraji, et al., in order to
prepare
> the Way.
>
> Perhaps you could rough out a preliminary announcement/press release for
> future release regarding the discovery of Swami Gloria? We need to bury
some
> relics in advance, so let's not be concerned too much about details, just
yet.
>
> Sai Ram! Sat Nam! In Excelsis Gloria!
> Blessings
> Love,
>
> Zenbabaji
>
> > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Nowhere is Now Here. All
paths, places, and sights and perceptions exist only in the Space of
Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Here. You are not
"in" the now. You Are the Now! Here is Home. Home is where True Rest Is.
Home is where the Heart Is. It is the Seer resting in the Seer, the
Self-Nature, the Buddha Nature, or call it what you will. The Radical Truth
is Radiance of Awareness. It is both the path, process, and the goal. It is
Finality of Being without any support. It is Total Independence and Ever
Present. The Truth of the Self needs no psychological or spiritual crutches.
It needs no philosophy, no religion, no explanation, no teaching, and no
teacher, and yet It is always their support. A true devotee relishes in the
Truth. The Truth of Self-Knowledge which is Pure Intelligence. Welcome all
to HarshaSatsangha.
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-26-1999, 07:47 AM
Well Swami Zenbabaji,
Thank you and pranaams for including me in your select group. We can
rev up the publicity machine any moment, just give the call. We're
thinking of a multi-demographic analysis here - writeups in the major papers as
"news" articles. Ads in various cities' alternative press and the
metaphysical/yoga/health publications. Intentionally un-slick flyers.
A book signing tour. Interview with Larry King and Oprah (we will
have ironed out the accent issue by that time, we'll have our own
makeup artists use temporary tatoo-like substances and then say to the TV
folks "What??!! Makeup??!! Gurudev Swamijijiji Zenbabajijiji? He
would never think of it - his entire life is an outpouring of Truth!!"
"Please, no, film him as he is, in his humble Natural state."
You get the idea!
--Greg
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-26-1999, 02:37 PM
In a message dated 9/25/99 2:25:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
mirror@... writes:
<< I hereby propose some mayor investments in Switzerland for Swami Gloria,
for
I feel responsible to certify the continuity of this operation, and since I
am Protector of the Faith, I am the only one that can be trusted with these
kind of operations. But of course we will have to discuss my commissions
first.
>>
Dearest Beloved Miraji:
Your proposal is being considered by Swami Gloria, even though her commitment
to resting would normally preclude any major Political activity, such as
running for Mayor of any of the Cantons in Switzerland, or even investing in
an already existing Mayor or Burgermeister. However, if you are suggesting
placing financial holdings into numbered accounts in Switzerland, then I
believe that this is a wise decision. Your commissions will, as shall all of
ours, be calculated from net profits (prophets?) resulting from publishing,
tours, and gift sales worldwide, and shall not exceed 2% of this total, nor
shall the amount annually exceed $2.2 million dollars U.S. This may seem
modest, but the reserve funds will be used for major medical programs,
education, and for maintaining travel expenses for all of the Divine Staff.
I am sure you will find this most befitting one of your humility, ability and
devotion. Also, any donations made to you by devotees is yours to keep or
use at your own discretion.
Sai Ram!
Blessings!
Zenbabaji
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Re: The Swami Contest! -
09-27-1999, 12:51 PM
In a message dated 9/26/99 7:48:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, goode@...
writes:
<< Ads in various cities' alternative press and the
metaphysical/yoga/health publications. Intentionally un-slick flyers.
A book signing tour. Interview with Larry King and Oprah (we will
have ironed out the accent issue by that time, we'll have our own
makeup artists use temporary tatoo-like substances and then say to the TV
folks "What??!! Makeup??!! Gurudev Swamijijiji Zenbabajijiji? He
would never think of it - his entire life is an outpouring of Truth!!"
"Please, no, film him as he is, in his humble Natural state."
You get the idea! >>
Dear Gregaji:
Inspirations all. I am in accord with this effluvia. Swami Gloria fully
supports drafting preliminary plans...to be called stage 1.
>From now on all info releases are to be written as if documenting serious
authentic Guru revelations. Who knows who may be watching us?
We should begin collecting publicity photos of all involved.
Mine is attached. More available...feel free to alter as you deem best in
order to remove any taint of "slickness."
Blessings!
Sai Ram!
Zenbabaji
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