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Default Re: classical questions- but no classical answers!!!! - 11-24-2004, 02:23 AM

Dear egodust-ji !

Among all the posts , your post caught my attention.


Not only because of its Unique contents but also because only a man
of expanded consciousness can recognize the contributions of Sage
like Shri Ramana Maharishi and also pay tribute to a controversial (
persona non grata)Shri Rajneesh Bhagwan ( or OSHO)in the same breath.

Yes- Osho was a man of vision but unfortunately the 'total' freedom
that he advocated became his own undoing. and the recent arrest of
Kanchi Acharya clearly demonstrates that even Holy men
become 'victims' of UNHOLY politics. and Osho was 'unholy' ( by hindu
standards) in his 'holiness' ! Osho was totally 'baul-like' in his
attitude and respected individuality and did not care for 'norms'
or 'rules' of society!Almost, a modern day 'Dattareya' , FREE from
the bondages of 'ego' - for him, " Love should set one free and not
bind' - and by love, he did not mean the small love between a man and
a woman , but LOVE as reprsenting 'oneness' of soul to soul! This is
AFFIRMATION OF LIFE NOT NEGATION.


it is strange you should mention the 'book of secrets' by Osho- THE
vigyana Bhairva tantra - NEXT TO RUDRA YAMALA TANTRA , it is
considered the most sacred literature among the tantriks.

on a more humorous note, this' book of secrets ' was presented to
President Clinton during his white house years to instruct him on how
to transcend from the 'mundane' to the sublime through meditational
techniques! smiles!

love and regrads
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Default Re: classical questions- but no classical answers!!!! - 11-26-2004, 03:51 PM

hariH OM! smt adi-ji,

i agree verbatim.

osho's undoing was also a great lesson insofar as the colossal
failure of one attempting to live advaita in the vyavaharika.

came through me one day this: "act as though everything matters; be
as though nothing does." apparently parabhakthi for my guru ramana
has, i firmly believe, brought this through me, since it came without
deliberation, but effortlessly [as result of compassion for someone
having a problem they found seemingly insurmountable].

and, yes, osho represented "affirmation of life, not negation." a
colossal breakthrough concept whose protracted consideration is long
overdue among many adherents of the so-called Perennial Philosophy,
founded, as it is, on non-dual existential insight.

please see my response to sri bhaskar, elaborating on the above.

namaskaar,
frank

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--- "adi_shakthi16" wrote:

> Yes- Osho was a man of vision but unfortunately the 'total' freedom
> that he advocated became his own undoing. and the recent arrest of
> Kanchi Acharya clearly demonstrates that even Holy men
> become 'victims' of UNHOLY politics. and Osho was 'unholy' ( by

hindu
> standards) in his 'holiness' ! Osho was totally 'baul-like' in his
> attitude and respected individuality and did not care for 'norms'
> or 'rules' of society!Almost, a modern day 'Dattareya' , FREE from
> the bondages of 'ego' - for him, " Love should set one free and not
> bind' - and by love, he did not mean the small love between a man

and
> a woman , but LOVE as reprsenting 'oneness' of soul to soul! This

is
> AFFIRMATION OF LIFE NOT NEGATION.
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Lady Joyce
 
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Default Re: Re: classical questions- but no classical answers!!!! - 11-27-2004, 12:21 AM

Dear Shri Frankji:

Namaskaar.

Thank you for the time and effort you take to write to the list.
Your wisdom and clarity of expression are much appreciated.
Knowing that you have chronic pain, I send you healing thoughts :-)
Your comment below reminds me of a Ramana story...see below...

Love,

Joyce

Frankji wrote...

> came through me one day this: "act as though everything matters; be
> as though nothing does." apparently parabhakthi for my guru ramana
> has, i firmly believe, brought this through me, since it came without
> deliberation, but effortlessly [as result of compassion for someone
> having a problem they found seemingly insurmountable].

================================================== =========

Before leaving the ashram, Bhagavan gave me some verses
he had selected from the Yoga Vasishta. He said they contained
the essence for the path of a pure life.


"Steady in the state of fullness,
which shines when all desires are given up,
and peaceful in the state of freedom in life,
act playfully in the world, O Raghava!"

"Inwardly free from all desires,
dispassionate and detached,
but outwardly active in all directions,
act playfully in the world, O Raghava!"

"Free from egoism, with mind detached as in sleep,
pure like the sky, ever untainted,
act playfully in the world, O Raghava!"

"Conducting yourself nobly with kindly tenderness,
outwardly conforming to conventions,
but inwardly renouncing all,
act playfully in the world, O Raghava!"

"Quite unattached at heart but for all appearance
acting as with attachment,
inwardly cool but outwardly full of fervour,
act playfully in the world, O Raghava!"

I sorrowfully said farewell to Bhagavan. As I was leaving he said,
"You will return here again." I wonder. Since his physical presence
has gone I wonder if I shall. Yet often I feel the pull of Arunachala
as though it were drawing me back. I feel the pull of that sacred hill
of which he was so much a part and where his mortal body lies buried.

Mercedes de Acosta, Here Lies the Heart
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