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Default Re: The Real and the Unreal - Part II - Maya for REAL!!! - 07-05-2004, 05:00 AM

Chiita-ji

Thank you for introducing The French Philosopher Rene Descartes to
this audience.

Yes! Descartes o gave to the World the famous dictum

"I think therefore I exist" (cogitio, erogo sum)

YES, The great guy doubted everything including existence but he
could not doubt the fact that he doubted !!!! smiles!!

Yes! There is always a 'doubt' and a 'doubter'? all this Doubting
ends when one realizes

" I am therefore I exist" as our beloved Shankara Bhagvadapada would
say.

But to come to this realization , we need to know what is that
prevents us from knowing the 'Real' from the 'Unreal' ?

Enters Lady MAyA - " THE CREATOR AS WELL AS THE CREATED" ( this is
the Divine Feminine in me asserting this! smiles! )

And i agree with you with my body-mind and soul when you EXPRESS
BEAUTIFULLY

"It is time we went back to the reality that we see and experience,
the healthy and lusty reality that is joyful and painful, that
stretches from the abyss of darkness in the hidden recesses of the
mind to the exuberance of life bursting forth from the virgin fields
of earth. She is the Reality encompassing the world of the mortals
and the worlds of the immortals. She is the Great Mother, the
eternal consort of the Lord. "

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Yes, Maya-shakti is an inevitable aspect of Shiva ! and she plays
this role to perfection by acting as a veritable screen which
conceals the real form of things (Tirodhanankari) deluding us into
believing the multiform of universe, which in essence is uniform.If
Siva is real, so is his shakti ! How can the Reflector be real and
the object of reflection be Unreal? The reflected object has no
separate existence from its reflector. She ( maya-shakti) is
therefore Transcedent and Immanent! She just loves to play hide and
seek !! she is the 'marichi' of Ramayana, the Golden deer , playfully
hopping around eluding capture!

Just a month ago our beloved Kenji had explained to us in great
detail the Magical power of MAyA in the VEdas. Maya'S SUPERNATURAL
POWERS or extraordinary prowess via a pantheon of Vedic gods like
Indra, ashwins, Rbhus, Aditi, Varuna etc... and he even reiterated
again and again that Maya as "illusion" is a latter day concept which
emerged in the treatises of scholars.

But, vedantins like to call MAya "unreal" (ayathartha) and
anirvachaniya ( inexplainable). This is because fir them the whole
universe is 'unreal' (jagat mithya)!

But, how can the World be unreal?

She is Sakala-janani ( the mother of the universe) and Ambaal (THE
CASUAL MATRIX)! She is "chaitanyam" ( super-consciousness)!

ADVAITINS! forgive me ! i may be out-of-line here!

This great desire to understand what is 'unreal' so we can free
ourselves from the illusory power of Maya is itself work of Maya!
smiles !

IS THE WORLD UNREAL? it is our perception that is unreal.

why we should we read the scriptures like Srimad Bhagwat Gita, Bhrama
sutras, vedas , puranas, tantras etc if there is no difference
between the 'seeker' and that which is 'sought' ?

Maybe, the 'Maya' of Shankara's adwaithic doctrine is exclusively
reserved for the intellectuals and the scholars and the super
intelligent in this audience. To my simplistic mind, I like the
optimistic approach to Maya - it appeals to my temperament!

In the Kulacudamani Nigama, the Bhairavi addressing Bhairava
says, "Thou art the Guru of all, I entered into Thy body (as Shakti)
and thereby Thou didst become the Lord (Prabhu). There is none but
Myself Who is the Mother to create (Karyyavibhavini). Therefore it is
that when creation takes place Sonship is in Thee. Thou alone art the
Father Who wills what I do (Karyyavibhavaka; that is, She is the
vessel which receives the nectar which flows from Nityananda). By the
union of Shiva and Shakti creation comes (Shiva-Shakti-sama-yogat
jayate srishtikalpana). As all in the universe is both Shiva and
Shakti (Shivashaktimaya), therefore Oh Maheshvara, Thou art in every
place and I am in every place. Thou art in all and I am in all." The
creative World thus sows Its seed in Its own womb. (Arthur Avalon-
shakta and shaktism)

************************************************** ********************
Chiita-ji ! please continue your lovely discourses but follow the
great K-I-S-S PRINCIPLE so laymen/laywomen can understand !!!

Salutations to Siva-shakti aikya rupini!! Salutations to Mula-
prakriti!
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