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Default words , more words ! quibbling with words ! - 04-19-2004, 02:50 AM

THE word and the meaning are so inseparable that Kalidasa compares
them to Sakthi and Siva. "Vaak" or "word" is Sakthi and "Artha"
or "meaning" is Siva.

They are entwined in a passionate embrace - is how the
immortal poet presents the picture.

VAAGARTHAVIVA SAMPRAKTAU VAAGARTHA PRSTIPATTAYE
JAGATAH PITAHARAU VANDE PARVATI PARAMESHWARAU

KALIDASA SAYS JUST AS AS A WORD AND A MEANING ARE INSEPERABLE, THE
FATHER AND MOTHER OF THE UNIVERSE=PARVATI AND PARAMESHWERA ARE ONE
and worshippable as one!
(raghuvamsha or kumarasambhava? cannot remember?

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adi Sankara, has some advice on thie use of 'words'
"Viveka Choodamani" (The Crest-Jewel of Discrimination)

Sloka 60:

"Vaagvaikharee, Sabdajharee, Saastra
vyakhyana kausalam <br>Vaidushyam,
Vidushaam, Tadvad-bhuktaye, Na tu mukataye."

"Loud speech consisting of a shower of words, the skill in expounding
the scriptures, and likewise erudition - these merely bring on a
little personal enjoyment to the scholar, but are no good for
liberation."

("Bhukti" also means the earning of one's bread. Erudition
helps in earning one's bread - "Loud speech speech is divided into
four kinds according to its degree of sublety. "Vaikhari" is the
lowest class1 and represents articulate speech. Hence, dabbling
in words is meant."

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Sloka 62:

"Sabba-jaalam Mahaaranyam, Chitta Bhramana Kaarakam,
Atah prayatnaa - gjnatavyam, Tattvagjnaa - ttattva maatmanaha."

"My dear seeker," warns Sankara, "words are hypnosis. Words are a
dense forest. Try entering them without adequate preparation
and you are sure to lose your way and sanity. If you are serious
about learning, do not get lost but seek the guidance of a teacher
who is 'aware'."

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collected from the web!

Aum namaha shivaye!
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Default re: words , more words ! quibbling with words ! - 04-19-2004, 05:33 AM

namaskaar adi ji,
you said--

adi Sankara, has some advice on thie use of 'words'
"Viveka Choodamani" (The Crest-Jewel of Discrimination)

Sloka 60:

"Vaagvaikharee, Sabdajharee, Saastra
vyakhyana kausalam <br>Vaidushyam,
Vidushaam, Tadvad-bhuktaye, Na tu mukataye."

"Loud speech consisting of a shower of words, the skill in expounding
the scriptures, and likewise erudition - these merely bring on a
little personal enjoyment to the scholar, but are no good for
liberation."

("Bhukti" also means the earning of one's bread. Erudition
helps in earning one's bread - "Loud speech speech is divided into
four kinds according to its degree of sublety. "Vaikhari" is the
lowest class1 and represents articulate speech. Hence, dabbling
in words is meant."

Sloka 62:

"Sabba-jaalam Mahaaranyam, Chitta Bhramana Kaarakam,
Atah prayatnaa - gjnatavyam, Tattvagjnaa - ttattva maatmanaha."

"My dear seeker," warns Sankara, "words are hypnosis. Words are a
dense forest. Try entering them without adequate preparation
and you are sure to lose your way and sanity. If you are serious
about learning, do not get lost but seek the guidance of a teacher
who is 'aware'."
Aum namaha shivaye!

namaskaar adi ji,
i whould like to quote two shlokas from kathopnishad in this support--

1-II-23. The Self cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, not by
intelligence nor by much hearing. Only by him who seeks to know the Self can It
be attained. To him the Self reveals Its own nature.
1-II-24. None who has not refrained from bad conduct, whose senses are not
under restraint, whose mind is not collected or who does not preserve a tranquil
mind, can attain this Self through knowledge.

the self being attainable only by a pure heart, and the self revealed
only by the grace of the self.

Aum namaha shivaye
gautam. .


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