Mark,

This is a very good approach ... thanks for the mail!

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@...> wrote:
> Dear Surya & all:
>
>
> Great thoughts, all....
>
>
>
> See below:
>
>
>
>
> > From: surya vishnubhotla
> <surya_prakashv@...>
> > Reply-To: jyotish_remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 05:06:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: jyotish_remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > Subject: Re: [JR] Re: To Mark - Is Astrology &
> Christianity, compatible?
> >
> > Nice thoughts these thanks !! there is still some
> > uncertainity attached to these ... however that is
> > somethign time will settle i guess
> >
> > I have other questions as well ...
> > when an avatar is born ... whose karma does he
> > assume?? say rama .. he underwent so many troubles
> in
> > his life !! .
>
> Like Christ, I don't think Ram....at all, felt any
> of those troubles...
> but like Christ....Ram, going through, especially
> what we consider
> 'problems...
> shows us!!!
>
> that when we're in-tune with the Divine.....we gain
> the ability to deal with
> all Problems!
>
>
> . what karma can be associated with
> > Vishnu himself that he should undergo those
> > situations??
>
> My Guru, the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi...says.... when
> an Incarnation of Lord
> Vishnu comes,
> like ....say....Lord Krishna.... he comes in
> response to the intense build
> up of stress and negativity in the world.... such
> that only a great Divine
> Spark can alleviate....
>
> Rama, too came when the growth of Asuras and demonic
> influences was soooo
> great...
>
>
>
> > Vishnu himself is beyond karma !! .. as we try to
> > answer this I believe we uncover the real intent
> > behind the idea of karma ... however i would like
> to
> > listen to you first !!
>
> Now, this is where Jyotish/Astrology can help us,
> emmensely.
>
> Karma is simply...action and re-action....
>
> As such,...it represents the path of life...
>
> We're all on a path of actions...leading to
> consequences.... starting new
> actions,
> which are going to cause new consequences....
>
> Karma, is the way we evolve...
>
> What is significant from a Jyotish/Astrology point
> of view, is that our own,
> individuals...
> charts...show us...what our 'good' or
> benefic...karmas....are!
>
> and our 'not so good', or 'negative', or
> 'problematic, or maleific
> karmas...are....
>
> This is significant....because one of the most
> important aspects of life....
> is learning to distinguish....between doing 'right
> action'.....
> and that...which leads us astray....
>
> Actions that flow through our benefics, lead
> to....joy, happiness,
> spontaneous fulfillments of desire and success!
>
> Actions that flow through our malefics, leads us to
> mistakes, accidents,
> losses, grief, sickness, and lack of success!
>
> Jyotish is here to help us identify more with our
> benefics...
> and especially, learn how to identify and
> literally....transform our
> malefics, themselves....into
> benefic strengths!
>
> We're doing this anyway.....
>
> We go along, going too fast, and we find ourselves
> having accidents....
>
> We can say, oh, Mars is doing this to me,....but
> rather,...we could also
> say.... Mars is showing me the consequences of
> 'karma' of my actions....
>
> so, that, I learn from this...and learn...to perform
> Mars actions in a more
> balanced, natural way...
>
> All we have to do is slow down and notice how
> immediately smooth,..our
> actions can become to realize...malefic
> 'consequences'...aren't
> punishments...
>
> they're Cosmic, karmic, 'feedbacks'!!!!
> >
> > Also ... as the population on earth keeps
> increasign
> > ... constantly new souls have to keep descending
> from
> > the source .. what karma should be associated with
> > them that they should be born to certain parents
> into
> > certain patterns of life??
>
> This is a cool reflection. Because I've been
> thinking lately, you know...
>
> we could be looking at the Jyotish/Astrology of say
> the next 5 years....
>
> to understand what the nature of the souls will be
> like ...that will be
> coming!
>
> Then, we'll have a better idea...what our future
> will be like...
>
> We are a product of ....or a reflection of the
> Jyotish/Astrology of our
> births...
>
> And those symbolisms.... are manifesting or
> reflecting....what we're all
> going through...
>
> Collectively,...our World is like that...
>
> Anyone with even a beginning appreciation of
> Astrology ...can see the
> lessons of Mars, Saturn and Rahu...that are
> dominating....the lives of
> millions of people today....
>
> which must be a reflection of their individual
> charts.....
>
> Sometimes I think, we're in the middle of a very
> intense, Mars, school
> lesson right now!
>
>
>
> >
> > If you try to answer these ... you will realise ..
> > that all people born have all kinds of karmas to
> deal
> > with ... and I believe in any given situation ...
> the
> > intensity of his own actions in his past times
> will
> > determine the outcome and intensity of what he
> will
> > experience in his present ... probably this is the
> > reason why two people with same or similar
> planetary
> > configurations experiences different magnitudes of
> > effects !!
> >
> > hope I am making sense !!
>
> Learning that our Jyotish/Astrology....is not our
> fate....but our past & our
>
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