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Default Re: Re: Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva - 12-29-2003, 07:54 AM

Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!Haribol. Let
us look to Srila Prabhupada for the answer, he is so kind to give us his mercy
and guidence through his.books although he is no longer here with us phicially,
he is here with us in his instructions. He lives on in his words. Jai
Prabhupada!
Srila Prabhupada writes in Bhagavad Gita As it is, 10.8 - "The Opulence of the Absolute"
.
aham sarvasya prabhavo mattah sarvam pravartate iti matva bhajante mam budha bhava-samanvitah
.
aham--I; sarvasya--of all; prabhavah--source of generation; mattah--from Me;
sarvam--everything; pravartate--emanates; iti--thus; matva--knowing;
bhajante--becomes devoted; mam--unto Me; budhah--learned;
bhava-samanvitah--with great attention.
TRANSLATION
I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from
Me. The wise who know this perfectly engage in My devotional service and
worship Me with all their hearts.
PURPORT
A learned scholar who has studied the Vedas perfectly and has information from
authorities like Lord Caitanya and who knows how to apply these teachings can
understand that Krsna is the origin of everything in both the material and
spiritual worlds, and because he knows this perfectly he becomes firmly fixed
in the devotional service of the Supreme Lord. He can never be deviated by any
amount of nonsensical commentaries or by fools. All Vedic literature agrees
that Krsna is the source of Brahma, Siva and all other demigods. In the Atharva
Veda it is said, "yo brahmanam vidadhati: purvam yo vai vedams ca gapayati sma
krsnah." "It was Krsna who in the beginning instructed Brahma in Vedic
knowledge and who disseminated Vedic knowledge in the past." Then again it is
said, "atha puruso ha vai narayano 'kamayata prajah srjeya ity upakramya."
"Then the Supreme Personality Narayana desired to create living entities."
Again it is said:
narayanad brahma jayate, narayanad prajapatih prajayate, narayanad indro jayate,
narayanad astau vasavo jayante, narayanad ekadasa rudra jayante, narayanad
dvadasadityah.
"From Narayana, Brahma is born, and from Narayana, the patriarchs are also born.
>From Narayana, Indra is born, from Narayana the eight Vasus are born, from

Narayana the eleven Rudras are born, from Narayana the twelve Adityas are
born." It is said in the same Vedas, brahmanyo devaki-putrah: "The son of
Devaki, Krsna, is the Supreme Personality." Then it is said:
eko vai narayana asin na brahma na isano napo nagni samau neme dyav-aprthivi na
naksatrani na suryah sa ekaki na ramate tasya dhyanantah sthasya yatra
chandogaih kriyamanastakadi-samjnaka stuti-stomah stomam ucyate.
"In the beginning of the creation there was only the Supreme Personality
Narayana. There was no Brahma, no Siva, no fire, no moon, no stars in the sky,
no sun. There was only Krsna, who creates all and enjoys all"
In the many Puranas it is said that Lord Siva was born from the highest, the
Supreme Lord Krsna, and the Vedas say that it is the Supreme Lord, the creator
of Brahma and Siva, who is to be worshiped. In the Moksa-dharma Krsna also
says,
prajapatim ca rudram capy aham eva srjami vai tau hi mam na vijanito mama
maya-vimohitau. "The patriarchs, Siva and others are created by Me, though they
do not know that they are created by Me because they are deluded by My illusory
energy." In the Varaha Purana it is also said,
narayanah paro devas tasmaj jatas caturmukhah tasmad rudro 'bhavad devah sa ca
sarva-jnatam gatah. "Narayana is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and from
Him Brahma was born, from whom Siva was born."
Lord Krsna is the source of all generations, and He is called the most efficient
cause of everything. He says that because "everything is born of Me, I am the
original source of all. Everything is under Me; no one is above Me." There is
no supreme controller other than Krsna. One who understands Krsna in such a way
from a bona fide spiritual master and from Vedic literature, who engages all his
energy in Krsna consciousness, becomes a truly learned man. In comparison to
him, all others, who do not know Krsna properly, are but fools. Only a fool
would consider Krsna to be an ordinary man. A Krsna conscious person should not
be bewildered by fools; he should avoid all unauthorized commentaries and
interpretations on Bhagavad-gita and proceed in Krsna consciousness with
determination and firmness.
....
SO very clearly Krsna says, 'narayanah paro devas tasmaj jatas caturmukhah
tasmad rudro 'bhavad devah sa ca sarva-jnatam gatah'. "Narayana is the Supreme
Personality of Godhead, and from Him Brahma was born, from whom Siva was born."
In closing, we can say that Lord Visnu and Lord Siva, as well as Lord Brama are
one in the same in ESSENCE but not in QUALITY, just as the son is of the same
essence as the father.
Hare Krsna.-Madhumangala dasa
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