beloved joyce....essentially this is wht the poem i wrote for tim was
about....many failed to see the irony in some of the
words.....another irony in that it inspired a verbal violence is some
reponses which is what i was objecting to anyway....senseless violence
propagating itself.....the ironig 'you' and 'your' id deliberate....is
you the godhead....is you you the reade....is you white wolfe/the
witness talking to mark/the poet....or is all of us?......dualities
within dualites arising into a i hoped a fairly non-dual
commentary.....over on another list Father Patrick Collins
immediately picked up this so the poem has served its
purpose.....keep writing....i love your posts.....^^~~~~~

further up and further in,

white wolfe
----- Original Message -----
From: Joyce Short
To: HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:40 AM
Subject: [HarshaSatsangh] Who is Poor Wee Tim?
Dear List,Well, it was never my intention to glorify 'anyone' -
this'Tim" (and there but for the Grace of God go I)... nor would any
Zen master approve of anyone glorifying him. Of course, in
conventional terms, this person's actions were despicable and so
forth. And how thrilling and temporarily satisfying righteous anger
at other is. If we look around us, we see things like this occuring
daily really. I have lived a good part of my life in Third World
countries, (as we like to label them and tuck those folks
conveniently into the back of our mind), including eight years in
Kenya. What is happening there, what is continuing to happen in all
of Africa and in all of Asia, without any particular expression of
outrage, is beyond description. And as well, in my happy country of
Canada, there is plenty of suffering and oppression, perhaps not so
apparent as in Africa. It is a matter of degree. All conventional
politics is dual, even when we are good people thinking and doing the
right thing. And conveniently overlooks the idea of karma.When the
realization that all my efforts at political action were really quite
hopeless, were not eleviating any suffering and usually making things
worse, I decided that the only possible political action left was to
be a student of non-dualty, to explore the greed, hatred and
delusion, the cause of all suffering, in this egoistic life as I live
it, in this mind writing. What other response is there? Then, at the
very least, one is not adding to the grief.Whoever this 'Tim' was,
who knows? But whoever anyone on this list has to arise in this mind
as it contacts their expression through the posts. This affords the
opportunity to see into the moment this 'I' and any greed, hatred and
delusion. Most of my experience is with Buddhism, but I don't
identify this self here as a 'Buddhist'. This is really only a model
of reality, one of many, offering a view that may or not offer
insight into full reality. Since it seems to me that Buddhism, and
Advaita meet at the point of exploring this 'illness' of 'self', this
delusion of 'I' and 'other' then I assumed that encountering students
of non-duality on this list would offer insight into my own
ponderings and exploration into this duality and what non-dualty
might be. This is happening. Rather fine practice. I don't post
anything from Buddhist thought with the agenda that Im going to sort
people out. This would be pretty dual and delusional. I post
whatever seems to be passing through mind. It happens to be what I
have on my desk currently. Sometimes a person will respond from where
they locate themselves in the moment. Sometimes their response sorts
out some tangle in mind here and even better, sometimes I laugh. But,
always the opportunity to look at duality through projection is
present. Do 'I' like something, or some imagined other, dislike
something? feel neutral...whatever, one sees the antics of 'I'
present at these times. Mostly there is equanimity to all of it and
appreciation.Of course it goes without saying that one's concern is
for any and all 'victims'. But when I watched a few of the
interviews with Tim's victims, I saw those who continued to suffer in
hell, looking for some sort of relief through angry vengence, and
finding none, and those who, with great courage and spirit,
determined to make their suffering count for something, to help and
support others. These people I find most inspiring. If they can do
this, why not I? They at least move into better karma and use their
terrible suffering as their path. All beings will suffer what is for
them the limit of suffering at some point in their lives. People
around them may not even notice, their suffering may not be a public
spectacle, an 'orderly event' as CNN put it. We can kill another,
but let us do it in orderly fashion.So, all students of non-duality,
who are the victims, who is 'Tim'? Who are the enlightened ones, who
are the suffering masses? Who are the prisoners filling the prisons,
who are the millions at this moment dying? Who are the tortured, who
are those doing the deed. The list is endless. Who is walking the
walk beyond the talk? Yes, I am angry beyond words, at all of
'it'!Who is nasty Tim and who is good little me? Who do I hate
today?Joycehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HarshaSatsangh/joinHarshaSatsangh
Magazine and Website is athttp://www.harshasatsangh.comAll paths go
somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions,
and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back
into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than
the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of
Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It
is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the
Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of
Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self.
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