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Wim Borsboom wrote:

> Dear Kelvin,
>
> Just ruminating on your post, Kelvin, no skepticism intended or an intent to
> ridicule.
>
> I wish those ETs would be smart enough to bypass all those secret agencies
> and other bottlenecks and hand us (EACH and EVERY individual, also the
> secret agents and heads of corporations :-) all their knowledge and
> expertise "A technology which enables energy generation from the so-called
> zero point field" straight through... bypassing even the slightest
> possibility to not be known or found out or hidden away.
>
> They could even be so smart as to prevent the global and financial
> calamities that could ensue from their positive interference...so that
> everyone wins... instantly.
>
> Free energy, why should anyone worry then, ever?
>
> If it is free for everyone then it is also free for the corporations,
> institutes and organizations who would stand to lose. Well, if they lose
> they can make it up with whatever is free, even 'power mongers' will benefit
> as they can take their free vacations wherever and whenever and mix freely
> with anyone else who they needed to take their money and labour so as to
> afford expensive habitations and vacations.
> If anything, those people who seem to be suspect in stopping all of ET's
> gifts would benefit as much, is it not?
> Realistically now, if this is true would anybody want to stop this?
> If everyone wins.... nobody, even big business, big corporations, the power
> holders, the string pullers and purse controllers could not lose. They could
> actually stimulate this and be proponents, using the infrastructure of their
> organizations to plan the free hand down of shared riches.
> Anybody who would know this to be absolutely true would stimulate this...
> there would be absolutely no reason for secrecy and holding back of this
> information other than for a controlled and panic preventing transition...
>
> If it would be possible and if it were true as indicated there would be no
> fear, would there be?
>
> Just ruminating still, not making up my mind or trying to have you change
> your mind, still just thinking aloud.
>
> We used to think God could do such a thing, ...Does it all seem to hinge on
> belief and faith?
>
> We would need a heck of a good 'project planner' and project plan, where
> time seems to be the only problematic resource as everything else is free in
> principle.
>
> Hehehe, I offer my services, I wrote a Microsoft approved Project Planning
> Course, so you and I are in good hands with Bill Gates MS stamp of approval.
>
> > "One must consider what will happen when every village in India (or
> > Africa or South America or China) has devices which can generate large
> > amounts of power without pollution and without spending huge sums of
> energy
> > on fuel. the entire world will be able to develop in an unprecedented
> > fashion--without pollution and without billions spent on power plants,
> > transmission lines and combustible fuels. The have-nots will have."
>
> Hmmm? And the haves will not lose!
>
> Anyway (1),
> That about amounts of free power for countries like India (and why not us),
> that type of thing is already done with conventional water, solar and wind
> power... It is the infrastructure, culturally, mentally and spiritually that
> has to change.
> We need a prophet, in addition to a project planner who can pull this off,
> United Nations approved.
>
> Anyway (2),
> Come to think of it, with everything that we have at hand right now, this
> can be pulled off. We do not really need ET's.
> (Some say that WE are the ET's... When did WE lose our knowledge and our...
> ? Why can't we keep all our juggling balls up in the air?)
>
> Anyway (3),
> We seem to ALWAYS be waiting for the miracle, the free hand out, while....
> what we have right now IS the miracle. It is in fact free...
>
> Anyway (4),
> Beyond dualism and non-dualism. Ah, forget anything to do with conceptuality
> and rediscover that this is the miracle, the freedom...
>
> For now,
> It seems on a 'one to one' basis that liberation manifests.
> It seems to be project planned that way,
> Every living resource gets a turn, it is just that the waiting period is so
> painful...
> Called lead-in time in project management.
> Ah, our time dependency... can we not do something about that?
>
> It is so maddening if it were not so simple...
>
> Love, Wim
>
> PS, when I was 18, I wrote a poem that started,
> "Time does not exist..."
> It is now 39 years later.
> Time seems to exist if we use arithmetic...
> It does not, if we don't.
>
>
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