Blue light phenomena - kinda like a blue light special at Kmart.

My sister worked for an opthamalogist so all these things we see can
be a reflection of certain 'floaters' as well. However when the 6th
chakra opens one will physically see what is in the astral. The
veils' rent and you see so vividly the astral as physical, there is
no difference at that point when it happens.

The problem with these things people 'see' is that imagination comes
into play and this is where devotee's can feel trampled on or others
can assume they are bragging or can be called names like having no
humilty or whatever. Good analytical material for self understanding
on both sides. The important thing is that when the 6th chakra is
opened you will see the astral as physical. It will superimpose on
the physical plane and that can freak people out. Now when we limit
sight to only the inner eye, that is only the beginning for
visualization to train the mind. It can lead one into a meglomaniac
area of thinking they are seeing God when they aren't. After serious
sadhana, the ajna is opened on it's own and one has astral sight that
appears physical.

The astral realm I liken to the milky way in the galaxy. Imagine you
were an astronaut on a space adventure. You 'initate' your journey
by getting the rocket 'sadhana' and blasting to whatever the goal is
in space, for each person this is different. Imagine you get to the
milky way and you say, "Oh pretty milky way, this must be the goal!
This is it, Oh God! Lets stay here were it's so pretty and milky
stary light." This is what happens to yogi's and aspirants who get
stuck in the astral. They think astral seeing is the goal and get
stuck. They get mezmerized by all the possibilites and forget to
continue on with the real goal of reaching their destination. There
is psychism and spirutal experience. They vary drastically. One has
to realize they are in the astral realm and then devise a way to get
out in order to have spiritual transforming experience. If you are
heated in devotion for God, astral will
happen automatically and at first it's like, "Oh shiney stary light"
but then you must learn what it teaches you as a sign post and
continue the sadhana for Realization, transmutation, forever in
bhaktiland - whatever the final goal and just know the astral is just
that - a sign post. The milky way lets you know your still in the
same galaxy and havn't transcended the universe as we know it yet.
Now if you have spiritual transforming experiences you will still
have astral vision most likely alot of the time if you are still
doing sadhana. There are many householders having spiritual
experiences and alot of Guru's teaching astral expereince. It's
neccessary to know the difference and to not place too much emphasis
on visions. Sight is the most deceptive of the senses.

I saw angels during my intense sadhana at 20-25. After I stopped the
sadhana the visions only happened in dreams until lately, where I
have blue light specials (joke), but then it's what it is, blue
light. It's like having a dream of God where you are talking with
God and having a cool dream of your Ishta. It's a sign post that
your mind is on God and that God is communicating with you in a way
you can understand. It doesn't mean anyone is closer to God than the
next. Just remember if you are looking for God in a blue dot, the
blue dot will be your ishta. Go for God and let God dress you with
blue pearls as ornaments to your realization. Blue dots are a sign
post

These are my idea's on astral visions, is all.
Jai Maa!
Kellyastraea2003 <astraea2003 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Kelly,I take it you've been reading all the messages of this
thread?There's all kinds of blue light phenomena. The kind of light
phenomena we've been discussing here has nothing to do with the
physical eyes. I think I know what you're talking about when you
describe seeing lights & patterns with your eyes closed and seeing
"fireflies" after rubbing your eyes or being sick (migraines). I
suspect everyone experiences lights of that sort.As I posted before I
first saw the blue dot sixteen years ago while watching TV. It just
zipped into my field of vision. An amazingly beautiful brilliant
blue, scintillating with different hues of blue, like a small star,
smaller than a sesame seed. It would zip around like a crazy UFO,
stop still, zip around and then vanish as suddenly as it appeared.
Definitely being piloted but
not by me (or not my small me). It can show up & disappear at anytime.
With the eyes open, not closed.I've never seen an angel (that I know
of). Do you see them often?Astraea--- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
Kelly Leeper <blissnout@y...> wrote:> Astraea,> > It's a coincidence
you write on this. Just last night I was getting into bed and as I
was putting my covers over me to lie on my back in the pitch dark, I
saw a blue light coming from the back of my occipital area. I didn't
see it there, I saw the light from that area shine on my bedspread and
mosquito net around my bed and it seemed to permeate about 5 feet in
all directions at the same time. I didn't lie down at that time, I
stayed in the same position because I was very surprised to see blue
luminous light all around me while it was dark. The odd thing is
that it wasn't a dot outside
me. It was coming from behind my eye's in my occipital area. This is
where I intuitively knew it was coming from, somewhere inside the head
area. It was lunimous blue light and also an energy of peace came
with it. Eventually it died down in about 5 minutes. Also, I was
meditating in the dark for about 1 hour when I found myself on my way
to bed. So it wasn't eye's adjusting to the dark.> > Sometimes I see
light sparkles in front of me, like sparklers on the 4th. These
appear physical just like the blue light did last night. At times of
intense sadhana Angels came and permeated the house I lived in back in
92. They were huge and whitish blue and their feet would be
underneath the floor and their heads about 3 feet above the ceiling.
They appeared to be about 15 feet tall. The light last night was more
blue than white though. I thought,
"This is the blue light the mystics talk about...ahhh!" > > So,
please tell me more about the dot. Where was the blue dot?> > Jai
Maa!> Kelly> > astraea2003 <astraea2003@y...> wrote:> Namaste Latha,>
Thank you for not blasting me for bringing this topic up.> > I looked
in my Ganesh puja book and could not find the "Highest > Meaning"
page. What page is it one? Thank you.> > Astraea> > --- In
Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda@y...> >
wrote:> > Namaste Astraea,> > > > IMO, if your experience has helped
you grow in some way that is > what > > counts.> > > > If your
sharing helps even one person, even if that person is > > yourself,
that is what counts.> > > > Thank you for your willingness to
share.> > > > As you mention your affection for Lord Ganesh, I hope
you get a > > chance to check out "The highest meaning of Lord
Ganesh" - the > Ganesh > > Atharvasirsham in the Ganesh Puja book. I
am sure you will love it.> > > > With love,> > Latha> > > > > > > > >
> --- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "astraea2003" >
<astraea2003@y...> > > wrote:> > > Namaste Latha,> > > I don't know
if I'll get blasted for this here or not.> > > Despite the fact that
in Siddha Yoga we were encouraged to openly > > > talk about our
"paranormal" experiences, I only talked privately > > > about the
"blue dot" with one other SY devotee. This was about 9 > or > > > 10
years ago.> > > > > > As an example,while I was doing
sewing seva at the South > Fallsburg, > > > NY Siddha Yoga ashram, the
topic of the Oakland SY center came > up. > > > The Oakland SY Center
was Swami Muktananda's favorite SY > > > center/ashram in the US.
While I was visiting San Francisco in > > 1987, > > > I stopped in to
see the Bhagawan Nityananda shrine. I took two > > dozen > > >
gorgeous roses and had the shrine all to myself when I got there. > I
> > > did a dunda pranam before the Murti and when I sat up, I was hit
> in > > > the chest with a bolt of energy in the middle of the chest
(heart > > > chakra). I was overwhelmed by a feeling of bliss: it was
> delicious > > > and I felt that Bhagawan Nityananda had blessed me.
(This was > very > > > similar to my experience when I first met
Gurumayi in NY, but > even
> > > more powerful. Then I felt the energy hit my heart area and >
radiate > > > outward, but it was not accompanied by bliss.) So I'm
telling > this > > > story to another SY devotee (from the Bay area)
and she says to > > > me, "You need to tell this story so that other
people know how > > > powerful the Oakland Bhagawan Nityananda's
murti is."> > > > > > As a footnote, I have felt a connection with &
love for Lord > Ganesh > > > for many years (more than any other
Hindu deity). I just recently > > > found out that Bhagawan
Nityananda (died in 1961) was considered > an > > >
embodiment/incarnation of Lord Ganesh!!!> > > > > > Getting back to
the blue dot, Bhagawan Das mentioned the blue dot > > in > > > his
book and wrote that even Jerry Gracia (Grateful Dead)
saw it > > and > > > it was the source for his creativity &
songwriting. > > > > > > The blue dot appeared in front of me (while
I was watching TV) > > about > > > two years after I was initiated
into Siddha Yoga. I've been > seeing > > > the blue dot (in its
various manifestations) for about sixteen > > years > > > now. People
don't like to talk about it. I don't have > > > any "attainments" that
I know of! And I don't know what it really > > > means (if anything of
spiritual significance). I do know that > > Western > > > occultists
consider the etheric light to be blue. The Hindus > > consider > > >
the Akashic light to be blue.> > > > > > I don't see it as often as I
used to and it's changed in > character > > > over the years. What
reminded me of it (besides the Bhagawan Dass > > > book) was that I
saw it again last week while I was washing > dishes. > > I > > >
don't have any control over it.> > > > > > So are we allowed to talk
about this? What does it mean? If > anyone > > > else has experienced
this, please email me off-list. Thank you.> > > > > > Astraea> > > > >
> --- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Latha Nanda" >
<lathananda@y...> > > > wrote:> > > > Namaste Astraea,> > > > > > > >
Whats the blue dot?> > > > > > > > Love> > > > Latha> > > > > > > > >
> > > --- In Devi_Mandir (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "astraea2003" > > >
<astraea2003@y...> > > > > wrote:> >
> > > Namaste Kamala,> > > > > I was looking at Bhagawan Dass' book,
"It's Here Now, Are > You?" > > > > again > > > > > and came across
the section where he talks about seeing the > > Blue > > > > Dot. > >
> > > Are people at the Devi Mandir allowed to openly discuss the > >
Blue > > > > Dot?> > > > > > > > > > Astraea> > > > Yahoo! Groups
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