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12-03-2008, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by theist
I think you should listen to the song again, Are you suggesting someone replaced John's original happy xmas with happy Christmas?
If there once was Hare Rama in the background I have no idea but that is not my point.
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No, I thought you did not like the word xmas because it does not represent what christmas (christ mass) really is?
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Originally Posted by Deathless
I hardly think John Lennon is rolling around in his grave right now because someone got rid of 'Hare Krishna' in a few of his songs. I don't see why it's that big a deal to you guys.
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Agree, Although this is how I humbly saw the history I lived through --
Historically, if we look at this history of the 1960s that many of us lived through as teenagers, we understand the Beatles years was the beginning of a great cultural and religious shift.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p>
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This was enhanced by the hippie movement of so called peace and love, made more popular by the fame of the Beatles and the communications revolution of TV, Radio and Print media. <o:p></o:p>
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This also includes the famous 'peace' saying of Hare Krishna that came from both Prabhupada and Ginsberg in 1966.
Also, 'Xmas' to Lennon was NEVER about Jesus, it was about his peace and free love trip that he got off Ginsberg, Leary and Kesey.
Also, 'Hare Krishna' to Lennon was NEVER about Krsna originally at the beginning of 1967, it was just another word for 'peace'. The 'saying' of Hare Krsna was just another way to say 'peace man' Turn on, tune in, drop out" and was part of a counterculture phrase originally coined by Timothy Leary and Alan Ginsburg in the 1960s.<o:p></o:p>
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Later on however, it's real meaning was explained by Prabhupada when he lived at Lennon’s Mansion that frankly, Lennon did originally like due to his search for truth but unfortuately, his wife Yoko detested. <o:p></o:p>
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She never liked the devotees, that's an historical fact and frankly John never got into the real understanding of Hare Krishna either. Only George Harrison did that<o:p></o:p>
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Like many historical events, the interest is various; many could not care about this. Does this really matter?<o:p></o:p>
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Not really, this was started simply because I listened to an old version of happy xmas and could hear not just Hare Rama, but Hare Krishna CLEARLY as well, then hear the modern version where its now simply not there.
Last edited by Sarva gattah; 12-03-2008 at 03:20 AM.
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