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What is the point in posting a thread attacking someone else's system of belief? Rather than making the thread about MAYAVADIS and how they are so bad and incorrect, why not just speak about what VAISHNAVAS believe about Vaikuntha. There really is no need to bring in mayavadis at all, especially not as the main title of the thread.
It would be similar to a shaivite starting a thread called "Hare Krishna's are idiots. They think Vishnu is God."

Just present your belief system, and don't get into the evils of everyone else's belief system. When the title of your thread is about another belief system you are inviting them to come and criticize you here. If the thread was named something more appropriate like "The Glories of Vaikuntha" then the mayavadis wouldn't bother reading your thread and you could peacefully discuss what ever it is you wanted to discuss. But when you title things like this you are just provoking others to come and argue with you.

If any "mayavadi" made a thread about Hare Krishna beliefs, all the hare krishna followers would complain to ban the "offensive" person. So please be considerate of other's feelings and beliefs. If you are really trying to convince or convert people to your belief system, then speak in a way that is attractive to all people

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Thank you Jahnava Nitai prabhu for your kind instructions, you are 100% right, speak of the positives of Krsna katha ONLY - I am still learning, thank you for your knowledgable advice, my apologies to all others on this thread, I will only write about the wonderful pastimes of Lord Krsna in the future which also includes the pastimes of the Lords expansions such as Lord Balarama, Maha Vishnu and Lord Siva.

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thread is making me cry.

I am serious.. there are tears in my eyes from reading this.

The way some people behave is not making Krishna Consciousness look attractive. Everything about Krishna is sweet and we should not make Him seem like He specifically is the god of people with a mindset similiar to Muslims and Christians who also believe that everyone but them will go to Hell.

According to Bhagavad Gita, there is the path of the Devotee and there is the path of the Impersonalist. Both of them will bring the person to his or her goal, but it is the path of Devotion that is recommended because it is easier, safer, direct, and sweet.

In the past days I have been chanting the holy names and they do not make me feel like I should tell everyone else that they are wrong and hellbound. We all have so many chances and lifetimes to return to God. Presenting Bhakti in a much more sweeter and positive light is the way to possibly win someone, atleast one person, over to what they are destined to take up. And we shouldn't be so mean when discussing theology and philosophy, it just isn't right and one's audience or readers will quickly be turned off and they'll remember it the next time that they hear about Vaisnavism.

Devotion is sweet and the Devotee should be the same way
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This is very moving, I grew up in ISKCON since the age of 16. It is a fact that ISKCON is only a pioneering movement and at times we have been very fanatical, many are sadly still like that in ISKCON Australia however, you are right, just telling others about beautiful Krishna is the best way of winning others over, if not, just keep talking about beautiful Krishna regardless.