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Default 07-26-2008, 11:31 PM

Vigraha Prabhuji,

I agree with you that the Jiva has his/her sva-rupa awaiting him/her in a place that is beyond time [eternally present], etc etc etc.

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Please reconcile the Following statements by Srila Prabhupada.
I myself, can explain the terminology that Srila Prabhupada uses here,
but I think you're on a roll and
it may seem quite evident and in-line
with the references you have already cited.

Srila Prabhupada 'seems' to stating both sides of this argument--I feel there is no contradiction--but that is where I am approaching you to put it right so that the maxim will read coherently:
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. . . The all-pervading feature of the Lord—which exists in all circumstances of waking and sleeping as well as in potential states and from which the jéva-çakti (living force) is generated as both conditioned and liberated souls—is known as Brahman. . . .<o:p></o:p>
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. . . The identity of the living entity is never impersonal or formless; on the contrary, it is the material dress that is formless and that takes a shape according to the form of the indestructible person. No living entity is originally formless, as is wrongly thought by those with a poor fund of knowledge. . . . <o:p></o:p>
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. . . As we have learned from previous mantras, the brahmajyoti emanating from the transcendental body of the Lord is full of spiritual sparks that are individual entities with the full sense of existence. Sometimes these living entities want to enjoy their senses, and therefore they are placed in the material world to become false lords under the dictation of the senses. The desire for lordship is the material disease of the living being, for under the spell of sense enjoyment he transmigrates through the various bodies manifested in the material world. . . .<o:p></o:p>
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