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Originally Posted by gauragopala dasa
And before that?
There are so many things that Vedic sastra has told us that seems contradictory, whereas in reality, in Goloka Vrndavana dhama (Krsnaloka), due to the 'eternal presents' of no past or future, these things will be seen in another way as also explained by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p>
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada - “It is the jivas who are the attendants in His Sports. They become attached to matter, having deviated from their own essential nature as the result of their desire for enjoyment. But when again the soul . . . gains true wisdom of the transcendental region of God . . . he begins to get back his pure essential nature” Sri Caitanya's Teachings, p. 323.Srimad Bhagavatam 6.2.43
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"Vishnu has three energies, one of them is meant for manifestation of His eternal Abode,
another Potency is for creating all human souls who are emanations from His Tatastha-shakti found between the temporal and eternal worlds. By this potency He creates human souls. The human soul has two different predilections. If he desires to serve God-head he is allowed into the Eternal Region. If he desires to lord it over this world he comes down for enjoying in different capacities the products of the Deluding Potency." (Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura: Sri Caitanya's Teachings, "Immanent and Transcendent")
It is very clear to me, that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta, just like all other Vaishnavas outside Iskcon, knows very well that tatastha sakti is a region between the Vaikuntha (eternal world) and the material (temporal) world.
That is where all souls found in the material world come from. It does not get any more clear than that. None of us here fell from Vaikuntha. We all came out of undifferentiated Brahman located between the material and the spiritual worlds.
The 'fall from Eden' fairytale Prabhupada told his disciples was strictly inspirational 'snake is a a rope' tactic. Too bad so many of his disciples don't get it after more than 3 decades since his passing.
The lack of time factor means that once you make it to Vaikuntha, it will seem to you like you were there all the time.
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