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The following is concluding confirmation, as clearly explained by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, that all jiva/souls are originally existening perpetually in their full devotional bodily form, which is the full potential and expression of all marginal living beings, that are all enclosed by the eternal ‘present’ of time and space within Gods eternal Kingdom known as Goloka Vrndavan or Krsnaloka.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p>
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Within that perpetual world, all living entities are perpetually existening, which means thay are always present there as their bodily (vigraha) svarupa (devotional personality) form, that is an eternal servant of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krishna. Therefore the original residence of all living entities (marginal beings) is their original home Goloka-Vrndavana or Krsnaloka, which is the imperishable Kingdom of God.<o:p></o:p>
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“Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila” Letter from Srila Prabhupada in 1972 to devotee in Australia<o:p></o:p>

No one like a cowherd boy, lays down and sleeps in Goloka, then dreams they are in the material world. No, it is not like that. <o:p></o:p>
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The cow herd boy laying down sleeping and then dreams, in no way represents how the living entity comes down 'sub-consciously' from their perpetual nitya-siddha body to the material creation as their baddha-jiva dreaming conscious state. <o:p></o:p>

Actually because of the ‘concept of time’ there is really no two states of consciousness which means there is really no sub conscious secondary self, even though it is explained that way. Within the 'eternal presents' there is only one 'concept of time' and 'one eternal nitya siddha form of each marginal living being' that is eternally present in Goloka or Krsnaloka.
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What is really going on is to do with time, the time that separates the ‘eternal present’ in Goloka from the divided time of ‘past, present and future of the mahat-tattva. <o:p></o:p>
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This sentence is very important to understand.<o:p></o:p>
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There is no 'laying down sleeping in Vaikuntha or Goloka, and then dreaming' ones material existence, it is not like that.<o:p></o:p>
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What actually happens is the non-Krishna conscious desire and imaginations happen on the sub conscious level out of sync with the 'eternal present' that is eternally existent in Goloka. <o:p></o:p>
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Therefore the ONLY thing that happens is that the living entity leaves the spiritual Vaikuntha atmosphere of eternal time that is devoid of past and future. <o:p></o:p>
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The marginal living entity, as its secondary inferior baddha-jiva self, only appears as a secondary manifestation of the self due to the altered state of time. That restricted state of awareness, due to the living entities alertness being out of sync with ones natural enviroment of the ‘perpetual present in Krsna-loka, then enters the divided time of past, present and future of the mahat-tattva.<o:p></o:p>
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The paradox here is no one never really leaves Goloka, they only imagine they do by falling out of sync with the 'eternal present'<o:p></o:p>
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What’s more is, it's almost as if the awareness of the living entities nitya siddha body is suspended (at least to those who have fallen) but actually from the point of view of Goloka, everything is still going on in the service of the Lord in relationships with Krishna and His associates. The only thing that has changed is the ones awareness of 'eternal time' in relation to 'divided time' - hence it is not a division of consciousness ,but rather a division of time.<o:p></o:p>
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In this way it is incorrect to think a nitya-siddha devotee lays down and sleeps and dreams their baddha-jiva material existence, no it is not like that.<o:p></o:p>
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Actually when one again becomes aware of their eternal nitya-siddha body and relationship with Krishna, it will be as if their baddha-jiva dream state never existed. On return to the 'eternal present' it will be as if they never left because nothing has changed in Goloka.<o:p></o:p>
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FALLING TO THE MATERIAL WORLD<o:p></o:p>

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For a living entity to transmigrate through the lower species to again reach the human body, means the living entity has FIRST chosen to fall down previously, long, long, long ago from Vaikuntha, as their secondary lower baddha-jiva consciousness to the heavenly planets, then further to the middle planets, then the hellish planets and the then to lower species of biological life. Some also take shelter in the dormant aspect of their own Brahman baddha-jiva consciousness that, along with other nitya-baddha souls, is a collective of souls known as the impersonal Brahmajyoti or the impersonal aspect of their individual Brahman or nitya-siddha consciousness however, that 'inactive' state of individual consciousness is also temporary and one falls down from there again to the mahat-tattva or material creation to the encloser of ethereal and biological vessels.<o:p></o:p>
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Unfortunately many foolishly believe that this impersonal Brahmajyoti is their origin, but it is really just another dream state (A DREAMLESS DREAM IN THIS CASE) of the baddha-jiva.<o:p></o:p>
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