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Default "God as Absolute" vs. God as Subjectivly defined - 03-07-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SaiAyurveda

To even bear discussion of which incarnation of God is better is indeed an exercise in futility as they are all One. I respect the original posters question, but such a question must be sought on your own, as I don't think any of us could answer as to the greatness of Krishna and do him proper justice.
We Hare Krishnas of the Planet earth and this Brahmanda, do not have any confusion as to the position of Krishna and the multitudes of expansions incarnating from him.

Krishna is Bhagavan in his 'original-original form'. His eternal personage is not sought on ones own but rather through Sri Krishna's own spoken words and instructions as it is that he speaks in the Gita.

We must repeat 'verbatim'--word for word what Krishna himself proclaims--this is the stuff of which great mantras are composed.

It is a bereftment of intelligence to think that God is not an Absolute entity.
The definition of God is: The source of all qualities in full--this is an absolute state of existance that constitutes the Existance of only one entity in the whole of all the created cosmos and universes.

The relative statements of a mental spectulation is limited to the degree of worldly experiences.

The Absolute state of existance is not relative nor subjective.
The Kingdom of heaven where Krishna lives requires all souls to learn the Absolute requisite ettiquette to gain entry.

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Sri Isopanisad Mantra 15:
O my Lord, sustainer of all that lives, Your real face is covered by Your dazzling effulgence. Kindly remove that covering and exhibit Yourself to Your pure devotee.

Purport: . . .
“The Personality of Godhead, who is perceived as the impersonal, blissful Brahman by the jnanis, who is worshiped as the Supreme Lord by devotees in the mood of servitorship, and who is considered an ordinary human being by mundane people, played with the cowherd boys, who had attained their position after accumulating many pious activities.”
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Thus the Lord is always engaged in transcendental loving activities with His spiritual associates in the various relationships of santa (neutrality), dasya (servitorship), sakhya (friendship), vatsalya (parental affection) and madhurya (conjugal love).
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Since it is said that Lord Krsna never leaves Vrndavana-dhama, one may ask how He manages the affairs of the creation.
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This is answered in the Bhagavad-gita (13.14–18): The Lord pervades the entire material creation by His plenary part known as the Paramatma, or Supersoul. Although the Lord personally has nothing to do with material creation, maintenance and destruction, He causes all these things to be done by His plenary expansion, the Paramatma. Every living entity is known as atma, soul, and the principal atma who controls them all is Paramatma, the Supersoul.
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This system of God realization is a great science. The materialistic sankhya-yogis can only analyze and meditate on the twenty-four factors of the material creation, for they have very little information of the purusha, the Lord. . . .

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It is total self-serving illogic to say, "God is limited, and thus is not an etenal transcendent all-mighty spiritual person with his own name, fame, form, personality, paraphenlia, entourage and pastimes that are beyond the material world of the manifest 24 elements---but, we humans with our short life spans that we are awake for for only two-thirds (2/3) of each day, we humans possess our own persona form albeit for a relative short flash of a moment in space."

The creation has as it's back ground an absolute empty field called "brahman"--but the purpose for all this is to allow a place for persons (souls) to re-link with the absolute person through their own volition--using the hours of their life in cultivating this work acumen that is directed toward an absolute end: Krishna

Bhaktajan

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