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Originally Posted by Inedible
Giving up something you enjoy because you have to is not the point. The point is that when you find something better to enjoy, other things tend to fall away by themselves. It is not discipline.
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Inedible, I see what you mean, but it still doesn't make sense - at least to me, personally. People can obviously enjoy more than one thing in life. Why give up things that are not harmful, that are positive, just because you find something else to be positive?
I don't see how any amount of chanting and spiritual advancement would make me want to stop loving and being involved in my family and friends, for example. In fact, it's the opposite - it's selfish and life-denying.